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Old 07-28-2011, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright so a week ago I got an email from a friend who works at Burton head quarters in Burlington telling me to fill out the application they sent and who to put down for references.. it's just a seasonal low pay position but everyone starts off somewhere and its definetly a job I've been hoping for.

On the other hand... I spontaneously moved to Northern Maine a few weeks ago and got a job at a whitewater rafting company.. most the raft guides I'm friends with are all in the snowboard/ski scene once winter hits and 3 of them work at Alpine Meadows another chick coaches for Burton at Northstar all in Tahoe during the winter (as others go out to Jackson Hole/East coast mountains) after talking about Tahoe for a good 5 hours on our hike the other day I'm pretty sure they have me convinced I should just pick up and go this fall... I don't have a plan other than living out of my car and hoping for a job when I get there.. (I bartend)(waitress too) slash not to mention I may possibly be pretty broke after my trip to Argentina next month... but whatever I'll just wing it.

I'm worried taking a job with Burton will keep me on the East Coast forever since I could definitely see myself getting confortable within that company.. and I really want to go out west for a season.

What would you do..
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Tahoe....God's country. When I graduated from URI (a long time ago) a couple of us did a road trip out there after graduation, 3 stayed for good, 2 came back. It's worth spending a season out West if you don't have anything holding you back, IMO.
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Psi-Man View Post
Tahoe....God's country. When I graduated from URI (a long time ago) a couple of us did a road trip out there after graduation, 3 stayed for good, 2 came back. It's worth spending a season out West if you don't have anything holding you back, IMO.
Yeah I think you're right. I've never been there but the photos of the place look unbelievable, I mean it IS Tahoe.

I hear it's not hard to find a room come December. I guess thats the time everyone who got there early already signed out leases and there are plenty of people looking for another roommate.. Or I can go in mid October and see what type of jobs there are around then...

Anyone know what the hospitality discount is there on season passes? I'm trying to decide if I should go for a job on the mountain or not.. $$$ is going to be tight.

And aparently they have a decent bus system also?
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Tahoe, Salt Lake, Summit County are pretty much the mecca's. Lot's of different things going on than just the ski areas too. I'd also say there is a fair amount of chance to land yourself into the type of career you want at those spots. SLC might be the easiest. Being a metro area with lots of outdoor companies located or locating there. Summit has it's fair share of snowboard related biz, but the bigger players are almost always based out of Denver. Which isn't a bad location but not as convenient as the places mentioned above. Tahoe suffers from the same. Reno or Sacto would be the more likely spots there.

As far as jobs go in Tahoe, if you go there shoulder seasons, you shouldn't have too hard of time picking up a waiting/bar tending. South shore has all the casinos, definitely more jobs there. North shore has a better overall selection of resorts imo. Kirkwood was the only reason I ever went to the South shore and Kirkwood isn't really South shore either. There is also getting to be a lot of competitive pass pricing for the Tahoe area resorts. If you can squirrel $500-$700 I think you'll have your pick and you probably don't need to spend that much too.

As far as a bus system goes, I don't remember much of one on the North Shore, but I never had a problem hitching around. Keep a can of pepper spray with you, but I doubt you'd ever have to use it.

Don't get me wrong about not mentioning other spots like Mammoth, Jackson, or Aspen. Those are great spots, they just don't have the location that the three above do.

As far as the Burton gig goes, it could be worth your time if you stick to your goals. It is an introduction to the biz. If you can work your way into a decent position, it probably won't be that hard to whore yourself to a different company that is based out of the West. Plenty of guys running their ops out of or nearby to just about every resort in the West. So it could be a classic pay now and enjoy the benefits for the rest of your life type thing. Of course you could also end up stuck in the east, but somehow I think you'd be frequent visitor to the West.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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im planning on moving to tahoe myself next season and think i would be a better experience then working for burton in burlinton. burlington is a super fun town for vt but the way i see it is i can always come back to the east after a couple seasons if i want.
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If you've never been out west, Tahoe will probably blow your mind. Two things I hate most about Tahoe however as someone who is spoiled is the snow and crowds - even worse when you mix the two. The best terrain gets chewed in a matter of minutes and then turns into a mogul fest because the snow is so freaking wet. It will dump feet there, and after 1 day of being ridden it will seem like it hardly snowed because the whole mountain is ruined. I'm also a tree-whore and most major resorts there are very anti-tree-funnel-everyone-into-a-groomer, for liability reasons I'm assuming. They do very little selective cutting there, and the natural forest is generally a clusterfuck of pine/fir.

That's my negative-nancy two-cents about Tahoe anyways, I'm a spoiled powder hound so take my advice with a grain of salt.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd say move. You won't be young forever. If things don't work out this season move back home and try to get the job back with Burton. If you try hard enough you can get something to make ends meet out here. Just sack up and do it. Try not to spend as much money in Argentina and work your ass off when you get back to save money. It might take a little time to find a job, but you are a woman and it's easier getting a job in the restaurant business.

Good luck in your decision.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Tough call. I guess it all depends on the type of job Burton's offering (if it's entry level but with opportunity to advance or intern bitch work) Also, will this job be available to you again next year or is it a huge opportunity to get a real job in the industry? The seasonal ski bum lifestyle is great when when you're young but eventually you're gonna want out of the couch surfing poverty stricken bar scene. Depending on your age i'd be leaning towards the job, working for one of the biggest names in snowboarding I'm sure you'd have tons of chances to head west and ride big mountain. Of course having started my career at 23 i'm a little bias
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I would take the job at Burton. Just getting your "foot in the door" would be way worth it. Also you would make some great contacts while working there. You can always take a trip out west. It is about the long term and not what is best in the short run.

However, if you did want to move out west I would move to the Salt Lake City area. I really like visiting Salt Lake City and I think there would be better job opportunities and cheaper living with great riding very close to the city.

Another thing to think about is that a lot companies are not located right next to a mountain. I got a job at a resort using my degree and it's great. They let me take lunch breaks to go snowboarding and I just have to walk out of the office door and I am right there.
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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How old are you?

Why are these your only two options? If I was young again and could work in the states I would be heading for JH.From what I have learned about resort towns, all you have to do is stick around and the opportunities present themselves.
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