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Old 09-09-2013, 11:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recently I started a FB group with about 15 of my friends hoping to try to plan a trip to Tahoe sometime this winter. I am the most serious boarder/skier of the bunch, and I did a lot of research, on this forum and elsewhere, trying to get my initial plans just how I wanted them. Inevitably the entire plan has gotten highjacked and everyone now has their own ideas, completely ignoring my original plan and why I went with it.

I have gotten such ridiculous suggestions as, "We should go around Christmas. Who cares if the snow might not be as good as in February. We can always find other things to do if the boarding ain't good." and "I'm trying to plan a vacation with my entire extended family. Maybe we should all go to Tahoe together even though none of them ski or board."

I think that my biggest problem is that I am trying to plan a snowboard trip with a bunch of people whose top priority for the trip prob won't be boarding, but partying.

Anyways enough of me bitching. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to plan a trip with a bunch of people? I can't even get them to make the simple decision of how many nights they want to stay, let alone trying to set dates.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Fuck them and make your own plans....
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Awwww shit just noticed you're from Maine! I'm from Bangor and grew up riding/working at Sugarloaf. Just rode the Superquad up two weeks ago for my first time up there with no snow... kinda sad.

Planning something like that is a bitch! My advice would be to find 2 or 3 of the people that are thinking the most like you and plan the trip with them. If the others want to come, they will. Just make sure you get money from the lot of 'em or else you will get screwed in the end. You'll hear a bunch of excuses about this and that and then you end up splitting the lodging prices with 3 peeps instead of 9...

A good way to start: call whatever mountain in Tahoe you want to go to and see if they have group deals on tickets. That way you can propose to your friends "Hey, normal tickets are $100 per day, but if we go Feb X to Y and get 10 people to sign up, day passes will be $70 instead." Just a thought...

Side note, if you end up there over Christmas, shoot me a PM as I'll be on a family vacation at Heavenly then. Not my first choice, but I only have 2 weeks off school so why not? Definitely go in February though...

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Old 09-09-2013, 11:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Fuck them and make your own plans....
I'm seriously contemplating it. I just know it will be a lot more fun if we can make it happen as a group somehow. Housing is also a lot cheaper as a group.

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Awwww shit just noticed you're from Maine! I'm from Bangor and grew up riding/working at Sugarloaf. Just rode the Superquad up two weeks ago for my first time up there with no snow... kinda sad.

Planning something like that is a bitch! My advice would be to find 2 or 3 of the people that are thinking the most like you and plan the trip with them. If the others want to come, they will. Just make sure you get money from the lot of 'em or else you will get screwed in the end. You'll hear a bunch of excuses about this and that and then you end up splitting the lodging prices with 3 peeps instead of 9....
I'm actually originally from MA, but I just moved up to Kittery for work.

I think I'm gonna end up going with your idea of just going with the couple people who are most serious about the trip. I was already kind of thinking about doing that, but I just feel like a dick being like, "Lets all go to Tahoe!!! Nevermind, you guys suck balls and are indecisive. I'm going with my real friends."

I'll def hit you up if I'm in Tahoe around Christmas, but I think I'm gonna be trying to hit Squaw and possibly Kirkwood.
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I've been doing this every year for quite a while.

The first trip is a bitch to organize, but every subsequent year gets easier since you use the previous year's template and make changes.

First off, decide what you want. There is no easy or foolproof way to create a plan out of nothing in group setting. Come to the group with your plan and then edit it.

My first year, I came to the group with the following: preferred dates and one alternative, a list of destination criteria (hardcore resort, remote resort, party town, heli-ski options, etc.), a list of accommodation requirements (hotel rooms, private house, no shared beds, private hot tub, fully equipped kitchen, slope side, etc.)

Ditch the people who hem and haw or who want to change everything. This is probably the most important part. If they don't share your vision of what the trip should be (or at least reasonably close) then they're not going to enjoy it and neither will you. Do them and yourself a favor and cut them from the list.

My first trip, I started out with 16 friends who were "interested". 4 of us ended up going and we picked up one extra acquaintance who brought her Dad (super cool guy and a really good skier). Great Time! The next year, word got out about how good the trip was, and I started getting questions/requests from other people in August! 10 went the next year and it was even better. Now it is 9-10 people every year and the next year's trip is generally organized while enjoying the spring slush

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Yeah, I'm with everyone else on this. You'll get nowhere trying to build a consensus by committee, and anything you do manage to actually get going will be such a lowest-common-denominator compromise that no-one will enjoy it. And that's even assuming no-one in your group is one of those my-way-or-the-highway Sheldon Cooper types who will attempt to hijack the whole thing.

Plan something. Tell people this is what you're doing. Invite them along. If they try to change things, tell them they're welcome to plan a trip of their own and you might see them there if the trips overlap, but this is what YOU are doing.
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15 people is way too many to try to coordinate and organize. Find out a few that want to go to RIDE and work it out with them. Those who truly want to go and ride are probably going to be more flexible to work with because they're more eager to get out there.
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You have a perfect plan for putting 13 people between you and quality riding time.
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I have gotten such ridiculous suggestions as, "We should go around Christmas. Who cares if the snow might not be as good as in February. We can always find other things to do if the boarding ain't good." and "I'm trying to plan a vacation with my entire extended family. Maybe we should all go to Tahoe together even though none of them ski or board."
Nix these people immediately.

You want real riders going who won't hold each other back and are going to ride. You bring people like this and they're gonna fuck everything up if you let them. You'll have two choices, piss them off or let them fuck up your trip. It'd be an easy choice for me to make, but then again I can be an asshole sometimes.

Make it clear that this is a SNOWBOARDING trip. If they want to make it something else, that's fine. Let them plan their own trip, but leave them out of yours and politely explain why. They should understand.
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