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Old 01-10-2012, 09:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Seems to be the cool, trendy thing to do to bash organized religion and peoples faith. I dont know if i believe in God but i admire people who believe so strongly in something they cant see with their own eyes. How much time and effort have you dedicated to trying to genuinely help people? The world would be a better place if people spent less time whining about and bitching about peoples faith, and more time following their examples of selfless dedication.
Religion is just a business. And like every other business it looks to help itself and grow organically to gain strength in its numbers and thus its bottom line. The shit they push like "helping people" is true in instances, but like a large corporation run amok it also contains seedy individuals who destroy others' lives.

So while you think others are being selfless and dedicated, I just see that they're pushing an agenda to control others behavior. But maybe im wrong and his snowboard outings are going to cure world hunger.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Religion is just a business. And like every other business it looks to help itself and grow organically to gain strength in its numbers and thus its bottom line. The shit they push like "helping people" is true in instances, but like a large corporation run amok it also contains seedy individuals who destroy others' lives.

So while you think others are being selfless and dedicated, I just see that they're pushing an agenda to control others behavior. But maybe im wrong and his snowboard outings are going to cure world hunger.
Couldnt have said it any better
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So you took the time to write how you won't be helping this guy and had a dig about his beliefs, constructive post man......

Im pretty sure nothing was said about converting people just publishing a magazine for people who MAY be interested.

Religion has been SLOWING DOWN human progress since its invention, promoting instead ignorance, fear and absurd laws, not to mention justification for genocides and wars. I cannot help but be annoyed by yet another attempt to re-propose superstition wrapped in sport videos. He did mention converting people "spreading the word of god". I am annoyed by the fact that religion is considered the "default" and reasoning instead an "optional".

But I agree with you that is pointless. To me is like a guy trying to sell me a board with a brake. I call it as I see it. Bullshit marketing.
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Im not a christian by any means. In fact, I am not the least bit religious. But guys, if you dont want to contribute, then Dont. It's not necessary to turn this into a whole debate. also, it's "CRHISTian" not "Xtian". At least have enough respect to get that right. They believe in Christ and his words, so they are CHRISTian.

Good luck to you OP. I hope the magazine works out well for you. best wishes.
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The 'word of God' is the word of MAN. FUCK GOD.


using snowboarding to lure ignorant children to your cult is reprehensible. Ullr will punish you.
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The 'word of God' is the word of MAN. FUCK GOD.


using snowboarding to lure ignorant children to your cult is reprehensible. Ullr will punish you.

+ to what he said.
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Regardless of everyones opinion on religion the fact is people will believe what the feel is right (everyone included here) SO i guess my point is why does it matter, someone pushing their religious beliefs on you is the same as you posting here how religion is bullshit, its just both sides of the coin.

I myself don't really believe but what i do like about religion (and i mean some religions) is that it promotes some good values and ethos. In fact if we want to get down and dirty statistics show that (now I'm talking Australia i have no idea about the USA) Christian schooled children achieve better grades, attend and graduate University more and earn a higher wage on average more than students schooled with no religious affiliation.

You could probably argue this has to do with parents and socio economic backgrounds but i do believe that overall the values pushed through some religions help some people find direction and in my books thats a good thing. Does religion have its flaws? fuck yeah it does and i hate how it is used as an excuse for fighting, disasters, hate etc etc etc and it is more often than not manipulated to serve someones purpose, BUT as said i do believe there is an underlying benefit for some people.

Im not a guy who goes to church, or reads the bible or anything like that but i have 2 daughters whom i want to be raised with good core values and with the opportunity to make their own mind up as i did. They will both attend a local Catholic school because it is the best school in our area and students consistently achieve better results there (BTW i am a teacher at a different school) and i can only hope that when they are my age whatever they believe is because they experienced things and formed their own beliefs.

Not a rant just an opinion and by no means trying to stoke the fire.
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someone pushing their religious beliefs on you is the same as you posting here how religion is bullshit, its just both sides of the coin.
Actually it's not the same. Me calling bullshit and him actively recruiting followers is not two sides of the same coin.

I agree religion does have some good fables that aim to teach valuable lessons and the golden rule. But its a front for what it also does which is try to control its followers and grow those followers in number to wield its influence on our way of life. We actually debate whether we should treat homosexuals equally in this country because of the christian influence. Make no mistake they have a defined set of beliefs and they push it on us. My pointing that out doesnt put me in the same boat.
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