Echo Mountain to hit the auction block - Snowboarding Forum

linvillegorge · 06-08-2012, 11:16 AM

Colorado's Echo Mountain ski area for sale in August auction - The Denver Post

Hopefully it'll keep running, but in order to do so, they HAVE to ditch that General Manager. She's burning bridges as fast as she can light fires. The entire staff hates her and other local businesses and organizations don't want to partner up with Echo any longer because you can't work with her. She thinks she runs Vail Resorts or something. Any "partnership" with Echo turns into her trying to dictate everything while asking for an exorbitant share of the proceeds.

Justin · 06-08-2012, 12:50 PM

i think you should buy it.

linvillegorge · 06-08-2012, 01:07 PM

Last time it went for $750k.

They have significant hurdles for future growth. Size being the primary one and access being the other. With their size, they're forced to be park only and Squaw pass road is a PITA.

Lately they've been trying to market themselves as more than just a park, but they need to give that up and just focus on being the best park they can be, not just settle for randomly tossing features out on the slope.

Justin · 06-08-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by linvillegorge

Last time it went for $750k.

They have significant hurdles for future growth. Size being the primary one and access being the other. With their size, they're forced to be park only and Squaw pass road is a PITA.

Lately they've been trying to market themselves as more than just a park, but they need to give that up and just focus on being the best park they can be, not just settle for randomly tossing features out on the slope.

sounds like you know what you are talking about. i will invest $5.00

**killclimbz** · 06-08-2012, 01:25 PM

Snowfall being another problem. They don't get nearly as much as the big boys along the divide and West. I had not heard the problems with the GM, but I am not surprised. Big fish in a little pond syndrome is common.

linvillegorge · 06-08-2012, 01:25 PM

I live half an hour from it and my job is market development.

But, I have neither the resources nor the desire to try to run a half ass snow sliding establishment.

linvillegorge · 06-08-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by killclimbz

Snowfall being another problem. They don't get nearly as much as the big boys along the divide and West. I had not heard the problems with the GM, but I am not surprised. Big fish in a little pond syndrome is common.

Yep on both accounts.

snowklinger · 06-08-2012, 02:58 PM

While they may not have the snow, their conditions are better primed than any of a dozen other parks in the midwest and east that produce good riders and film. The proximity of other mountains is a poor excuse for their bad business.

Echo's problem is that being park only, they need to figure out how to slay that shit, learn from places like Woodward and Breck/Keystones parks.

Squaw pass does suck and accessibility will never change, they need to be selling progression and hotlaps.

MarshallV82 · 06-08-2012, 05:01 PM

I went there a couple times last year when I couldn't make it to Key or Copper, Found out I wasn't missing a thing!

Was on decent power days though, so I made the best of it.

**killclimbz** · 06-08-2012, 05:11 PM

Not saying that their park sucks, it is supposed to be decent. The problem is as everyone has alluded to is terrain. On top of that, even if you do expand your terrain, if you don't have the snow fall to support it, it still sucks. The big boys have both the parks, the terrain, and the snow fall (well most years...). It is hard to compete with. I wish that wasn't true, but it is.

Can't say I am surprised by this turn of events. I do think someone could run a successful model here too though.

06-08-2012, 11:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,540	Echo Mountain to hit the auction block Colorado's Echo Mountain ski area for sale in August auction - The Denver Post Hopefully it'll keep running, but in order to do so, they HAVE to ditch that General Manager. She's burning bridges as fast as she can light fires. The entire staff hates her and other local businesses and organizations don't want to partner up with Echo any longer because you can't work with her. She thinks she runs Vail Resorts or something. Any "partnership" with Echo turns into her trying to dictate everything while asking for an exorbitant share of the proceeds. __________________ "People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

06-08-2012, 01:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,540	Last time it went for $750k. They have significant hurdles for future growth. Size being the primary one and access being the other. With their size, they're forced to be park only and Squaw pass road is a PITA. Lately they've been trying to market themselves as more than just a park, but they need to give that up and just focus on being the best park they can be, not just settle for randomly tossing features out on the slope. __________________ "People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

06-08-2012, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,540	I live half an hour from it and my job is market development. But, I have neither the resources nor the desire to try to run a half ass snow sliding establishment. __________________ "People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

06-08-2012, 02:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,900	While they may not have the snow, their conditions are better primed than any of a dozen other parks in the midwest and east that produce good riders and film. The proximity of other mountains is a poor excuse for their bad business. Echo's problem is that being park only, they need to figure out how to slay that shit, learn from places like Woodward and Breck/Keystones parks. Squaw pass does suck and accessibility will never change, they need to be selling progression and hotlaps. __________________ is it late october yet?

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06-08-2012, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Justin Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 769	i think you should buy it.

06-08-2012, 01:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,245	Snowfall being another problem. They don't get nearly as much as the big boys along the divide and West. I had not heard the problems with the GM, but I am not surprised. Big fish in a little pond syndrome is common.

06-08-2012, 05:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
MarshallV82 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 428	I went there a couple times last year when I couldn't make it to Key or Copper, Found out I wasn't missing a thing! Was on decent power days though, so I made the best of it.

06-08-2012, 05:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,245	Not saying that their park sucks, it is supposed to be decent. The problem is as everyone has alluded to is terrain. On top of that, even if you do expand your terrain, if you don't have the snow fall to support it, it still sucks. The big boys have both the parks, the terrain, and the snow fall (well most years...). It is hard to compete with. I wish that wasn't true, but it is. Can't say I am surprised by this turn of events. I do think someone could run a successful model here too though.