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Old 11-29-2012, 03:24 PM   #91 (permalink)
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There's park and WROD.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:04 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Hoping for a "December to remember" but it's looking pretty sad so far. What is torquing me off this year is all of the surrounding states are getting blasted. I give it three more weeks, and then it's time to start using some serious vacation time. Probably need to consider moving too...
Come to Ohio, we got 300 vertical feet and no snow!

(Just giving you a little perspective is all.)
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:06 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Come to Colorado, we got 3k vertical and no snow, the mountain biking is great though.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:12 PM   #94 (permalink)
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So on a side note. Another season like last year is going to put the serious hurt on almost every ski area in the state. I got a feeling some are already teetering on the edge of declaring bankruptcy. The internet isn't going to let them get away with "come on out you'll have a great time" marketing. The guy who hiked the back bowls at Vail last year did more damage with than one pic than their marketing could make up in 10 years.

For destination areas, Crested Butte always seems to be in danger, Steamboat being an Intradouche resort is probably not far off that list. In the Front Range, I got to think Winterpark is in the most danger of having the operator pull out. Denver owns the ski area, so in that regard it's safe. Intrawest may want out though. Not sure about the other two, Vail resorts or Powder Corp (Copper) are on less solid footing. My guess would be VR as they have really extended themselves the past couple of years. Of course the good start to the season in Cali could prop them up through another bad year in Colorado.
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Not only could resorts be in trouble, but another sorry snowpack year in CO is going to put much of the American SW in some pretty serious water supply situations.

Not sure about VR's or any resorts' financial situation, but yeah, VR has been buying the hell out of everything so I'm sure they have some hefty obligations.
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Oh it's already looking like a "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" sort of summer...
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Not sure what VR's financials look like, but stock is trading at $56.50, so investors aren't scared. That's only about $8 off it's all-time high.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM   #98 (permalink)
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SCARY! Lake Dillon is very low. I took some pictures a couple of days ago. Last summer was mostly hot and dry. No snow increases the fire danger and with all the dead trees, this could be a disaster. We already saw what happened in Colorado Springs and fear it for our area.

Some scary pictures of a very low lake. The road in the picture is normally under water.





AHH! Is Denver under any water restrictions?

This picture was taken at the beginning of last season. Way more water. Last season sucked but the summer was very wet and after a good season.

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So on a side note. Another season like last year is going to put the serious hurt on almost every ski area in the state. I got a feeling some are already teetering on the edge of declaring bankruptcy. The internet isn't going to let them get away with "come on out you'll have a great time" marketing. The guy who hiked the back bowls at Vail last year did more damage with than one pic than their marketing could make up in 10 years.

For destination areas, Crested Butte always seems to be in danger, Steamboat being an Intradouche resort is probably not far off that list. In the Front Range, I got to think Winterpark is in the most danger of having the operator pull out. Denver owns the ski area, so in that regard it's safe. Intrawest may want out though. Not sure about the other two, Vail resorts or Powder Corp (Copper) are on less solid footing. My guess would be VR as they have really extended themselves the past couple of years. Of course the good start to the season in Cali could prop them up through another bad year in Colorado.
could be a silver lining for us in oregon.... if powdercorp sold mt bachelor that'd be awesome. fuck powdercorp. on the other hand, if ski areas start going up for sale pretty much the only buyers in this market are other conglomerates.

tbh i'm more worried about some of the smaller snowboard companies not being able to survive it. the last thing we need is a world of only B and Lib.

what's the story with the guy who hiked the back bowls at Vail?
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Yea I wanna see the pics of those bowls
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