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Old 10-25-2013, 03:14 PM   #1421 (permalink)
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Lovelands opening 6 chair tomorrow and A basin opened Lenawee today. If you're going up this weekend to the Basin get there early because that top chair is going to be death with how bottle necked it is.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:51 PM   #1422 (permalink)
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It is not a large slide. Large enough to bury a person though. Class 2 I believe is the definition of a slide large enough to bury a person.

Another old adage is "Q: What is the most dangerous type of avalance? A: The one you are caught in."

Size does matter, but if it is enough to kill you it is plenty dangerous. I know I certainly would not want to go for a ride in that.
I was actually more curious about the size of the slope in general.
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:00 PM   #1423 (permalink)
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What was it, a couple of years ago that a tiny avalanche killed a guy I want to say down in the San Juans? They had no gear and were planning on playing it safe, but a tiny little drainage slope slid on him and buried him deep in a terrain trap. I can't find the details on it right now.

Not related to that incident, but here's a good article on the subject:

http://www.wildsnow.com/10713/small-avalanche-safety/

Ah, even better, found a video on the subject. It's the second video.

http://www.wildsnow.com/6640/small-avalanches/
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:41 PM   #1424 (permalink)
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anyone hitting abasin tomorrow? ill be wearing orange jacket black pants, white board say hi
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #1425 (permalink)
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Took a pretty good trek of north-central CO today starting with a quick hike in Staunton State Park then continuing out 285 and up across Hoosier Pass, through Breck, and finally across Loveland Pass before heading home. It was getting close to sunset, but I figured I'd take the opportunity to make the quick hike out to where that group got slid last season unfortunately taking the lives of five.

Friends and family have built a small memorial for them at the bottom of the slope. Walking out the trail, it's easy to see how you could be lulled into a false sense of security. The "trail" is actually a service road that's a good 20' wide. You're in heavy trees, but upon closer examination, you're in avalanche terrain from virtually the moment you step off the asphalt. The terrain to your right and left is easily over 30 degrees. You can see the obvious huge avalanche slope looming through the trees, but when you get to the bottom of the trail, you've found yourself standing on the edge of a huge avalanche path quite suddenly. You knew it was there, you could see it coming down the trail, but it seems much more distant when coming down the trail. That's where the memorial has been built. What makes this one tricky is that at the bottom of the slide path, the terrain mellows out. You're a pretty good distance from 30 degree terrain as relates to the slide path, but quite clearly you're in the slide path. I could see how one could doubt their ability to remotely trigger a slide on this slope from where the trail intersects the slide path. In short, having visited the site, I can see how a group of experience backcountry travelers got caught here. I don't know what the avalanche conditions were at the time, but I suspect the group wasn't concerned about remotely triggering an avalanche on this slope from this point and that they assumed that the risk of a natural avalanche was low.

Here are some quick pics I snapped with my phone

Approaching the slope:



The memorial and, though it's hard to ascertain in this pic, the huge terrain trap of a good 30' deep gully at the bottom of the massive slide path:



Looking up the slide path from the memorial. Notice how the terrain mellows out into a kind of bench at this point. Like I said, you're a considerable ways from 30 degree terrain in terms of the actual slide path. It's steeper than it looks in this pic, but it definitely doesn't scream "you're gonna trigger a massive killer avalanche from here":



Finally, a couple of pics I snapped of trouble brewing on the quick hike back to the car. There's some massive surface hoar that has formed in the trees adjacent to the obvious slide path. Not sure if it's present on the actual slide path or not, but this stuff is nasty. At least an inch to an inch and a half deep and like I said, though this terrain is pretty heavily treed, it's definitely steeper than 30 degrees and this new snow coming next week is going to fall on a very bad weak layer.



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Old 10-27-2013, 08:40 AM   #1426 (permalink)
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I still have yet to hike out that ridge. I've thought about doing it a few times. It is basically a huge funnel, aka trap like you said. I think anytime you are going out that way there is a small measure of risk. That damn slab was just such a bitch last year. I've never ridden that line, not so sure that I am ever interested in doing it.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:55 PM   #1427 (permalink)
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Hopefully tonight's forecast will pan out Could make for some good riding tomorrow.
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Its been coming down over here for a while now. If the snow is really deep tomorrow morning I may bail early from work and skin up vail....
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:25 PM   #1429 (permalink)
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It's starting to look like winter @ LL pass.

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Visibility sucked. It was even worse on the ridge but the riding was awesome today. It was deep up top and the lower bits around the creek and leading back to the road are looking a lot better than a week ago.

If we get a little sun tomorrow I might have to sneak off for a couple hours for a few laps.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:03 PM   #1430 (permalink)
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hit keystone yesterday. It was pretty soft up top and through mid mountain, the bottom portion of River Run/'spring diaper' was terrible, pure marbles! needs more snow!
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