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heres my Vertighoul... has less days than my Evo, and I firmly believe with a metal edge, this wouldn't look like this. Is it a big deal to me? No. I don't even ride this anymore, and the board performs great either way, but they are very expensive boards and it sucks to see this happen.


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My Gnu Billy Goat has some similar damage to this. Not having the full metal wrap saves weight but on any Gnu or Libtech I have owned, they seem to get a little more chewed up like this that my boards with full metal wrap. Not a big deal to me either and the advantage is that it is easier to repair nose and tail damage as a result of not having the metal wrap.
same. i dont really care one way or the other since i beat the piss out of my boards, but it is tough when you buy a $600+ deck and somehow get a chip or crack like that..and like I said, I've probably tripled the amount of days on my Evo in relation to the Gnu, and rode it much harder since I've progressed alot since then. It just makes me wary of dropping the $ for a Lib deck over another RC type deck...I was debating between a Lib and a Salomon Sabotage or Villain and I think I'm going Salomon..unless I find a good deal on a Proto..i just love NS's camber profile


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You said this first

Now you are saying this



If you knew anything about snowboard construction you would not that it would not be any more difficult to run the wavy edge all the way around than to make a pointy tip/tail, blunt tip/tail, swallow tail. And why would you run it along the tip and tail? Your statement is just plain dumb.

Im trying to help you not be stupid, but you are fighting hard to stay stupid.

I guess its true ignorance is bliss.
Again, you are not adding anything to the discussion and just contesting my statement without providing any back-up or evidence.
I stand by my statement.
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Not looking for insights from you, just being correct would be enough - and a welcome change from you.
Yes, Mervin boards have not had fully wrapped edges for a long time, but that does not take anything away from my point that it is difficult to lay wavy edges that fully wrap the board. You might not like it, but it is a fact.
Do you know how other mnfrs that use a variation of lib's magnetraction tech deal with this? Do they fully wrap? I'm thinking Smokin, Rossi, Jones etc.? Wonder if they have the same issues...
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Okay buddy, consider this your warning shot across the bow. There is no reason to be a prick and insult people because they dont agree with your opinion. Either have a civil, mature debate about the topic without calling people "stupid" or your time on the forum will be coming to an end. Next time you will get a 30 day vacation. after that it is permanent.
I thought since you were calling someone a "Pussy" and saying they have "gay hands" in the NS fiberglass thread, that it would be ok to call someone stupid when they make a stupid statement.
You are setting the precedent.
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Somehow I think that a protective metal edge would definitely lessen the chances of that happening. I've had skiers go over my top sheet and never had a chip or crack like that ..

Come to think of it, I don't see how you can say it wouldn't have made a difference
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heres my Vertighoul... has less days than my Evo, and I firmly believe with a metal edge, this wouldn't look like this. Is it a big deal to me? No. I don't even ride this anymore, and the board performs great either way, but they are very expensive boards and it sucks to see this happen.
The only way a full wrap edge would have saved that was if the trauma occurred at the bottom of the board. That picture clearly shows no damage to the sidewall-ish area or the green/yellow base, just the topsheet. Maybe the glues/epoxies are different in areas with metal edge and THAT could change the outcome, but the presence of a metal edge itself would not have prevented that damage. I have nicks and chips over the nose and tail of my fully wrapped NS, but the material is different than my Lib. The NS topsheet chips, the Lib peels, simple at that.
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BigmountainVMD, maybe the top sheet materials and/or glue are different, but I'm just saying I see this ALOT with Mervin boards and not very often with other brands.. At least not to the extent that you could literally peel the top sheet as far back as you'd like. I'm not saying they make bad boards at all, I just don't think they're as durable .

And SnoWolf, props to you for everything you said in the NS Fiberflass thread.. It was more than called for. I'm just sad you closed it after your response because it entertained me for a few days.


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I have the answers: Dont stand in lift lines! , Only ride pow, .
Not trying to thread hijack: but Snowolf your input is needed over in the Boards (on MY thread about buying a Billy Goat) and responding to some folks' issues on your Billy Goat Review (which is a great read).
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I'll ask the guys from LT that have been (very helpful) dealing with my warranty to take a look at the opinion of you all on peeling versus chipping.

Have anyone tried the technique on the video I posted earlier about edging your top sheet?
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BigmountainVMD, maybe the top sheet materials and/or glue are different, but I'm just saying I see this ALOT with Mervin boards and not very often with other brands.. At least not to the extent that you could literally peel the top sheet as far back as you'd like. I'm not saying they make bad boards at all, I just don't think they're as durable .
I totally agree that the bio beans top sheet is not durable at all. I've had two T. Rices and both had tons of peeling, almost all from getting nicked by skis/boards in the lift line. I just think that the lack of full wrap around edge is much less of a culprit than the actual topsheet and epoxy itself.
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