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david_z · 01-25-2013, 12:24 PM

quick mini edit from yesterday. forgot the memory card for my Sony cam so ended up just taking a few clips from my phone. No problem, GS3 shoots in full HD so aside from being a little shaky (hopefully Youtube will fix that for me) it actually turned out pretty decent.

For those of you who don't know the back story I basically have not hit any jumps in a few seasons since I knocked myself out. Just been real hesitant/fearful of them. I know I don't look that great on jumps but it was a big deal for me to A) hit the jumps (even the small ones) and B) throw a backside 180 (which I'd never done on a jump before).

sabatoa · 01-25-2013, 12:38 PM

I didn't see your last line on the post until after I saw the vid but I noticed right away you hit the jump. Nice bro.

I remember that Saturday you told me you knocked yourself out, landed on your hip or something? What happened exactly?

david_z · 01-25-2013, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabatoa

I didn't see your last line on the post until after I saw the vid but I noticed right away you hit the jump. Nice bro.

I remember that Saturday you told me you knocked yourself out, landed on your hip or something? What happened exactly?

This:

david_z · 01-25-2013, 01:36 PM

And here's proof that I used to be able to hit jumps. I think from 2008.

trapper · 01-25-2013, 01:38 PM

That kind of shit right there is why I'm so hesitant to start hitting jumps. I mean, what's the general progression (psychologically as well as physically) to it for someone who generally just cruises?

Glad you're alright overall though man. Did you have a helmet?

david_z · 01-25-2013, 01:46 PM

Yep I was wearing a helmet unfortunately the helmet goes on my head not on my ass/hip

That was a sort of freak accident. Basically we had gone inside for about 40 minutes to have a beer or two, temps dropped rapidly while we were in, and this was the first lap after we went back out. I underestimated/did not account for the change in speed as the slopes firmed up, went in waaaaay to hot, didn't commit to anything and went off the lip off-balance. Overshot the landing transition and came down on my ass on the flat.

Out cold for about a minute. I called it a day after that. Could barely walk for a few days but was back on the slopes 4 or 5 days later I think. Hurt for quite a long while, and to this day now my right hip makes a clicking/popping noise that it never did before.

It is funny to look at this and like Sam's accident and even though we both got pretty wrecked (him moreso) we both got *really lucky* because both cases could've been worse.

But this is the only time in ~16 years of snowboarding that I ever really hurt myself until about a year later when I banged the same hip and saw stars falling off the wall ride...

General progression assuming you can already ollie:

Ollie off rollers and push piles, pop off side hits/transitions between trails, pop or ollie from the knuckle of jumps (to get a feel for landing on the transition), start hitting small jumps (5-10 footers - low consequence even if you knuckle them you won't blow out your knees or anything like you could on a much bigger jump), and then progress your way to larger & larger jumps.

I was never really comfortable trying anything bigger than about a 25 footer which are about as big as they ever build at Pine Knob or Mt. Holly. I have seen 50 foot jumps in person and they scared the shit out of me.

trapper · 01-25-2013, 01:54 PM

Cool I"ll keep all that in mind. Thanks.

I always seem to have my worst falls near the end of the day/night or after going in for a break. Never fails.

I think it would help if I ever get a chance to ride with people who can do these things already; I'm the kind of person who learns best by being shown how to do stuff. Everyone I go with either skis or just rides down the trails, which is still a lot of fun and all don't get me wrong.

sabatoa · 01-25-2013, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_z

It is funny to look at this and like Sam's accident and even though we both got pretty wrecked we both got *really lucky* because both cases could've been worse.

So freaking true. Was I pissed I ended my season, hell yeah. But we can move, we didn't end up like the poor kid from Massachusetts.

Even last year some guy got himself paralyzed from waist down at Highlands messing around in Funland. My guess same thing, came in hot and blew himself out landing flat or sumshit.

You want to learn jumps, cool. RELIGIOUSLY follow all the advice and tips. Get the speed right. It's one simple thing that makes the difference between a little bang or a day/season ender.

I didn't follow my own rules, I didn't watch where other people dropped in from to gauge the speed. Bad call.

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Leo · 01-25-2013, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabatoa

So freaking true. Was I pissed I ended my season, hell yeah. But we can move, we didn't end up like the poor kid from Massachusetts.

Even last year some guy got himself paralyzed from waist down at Highlands messing around in Funland. My guess same thing, came in hot and blew himself out landing flat or sumshit.

You want to learn jumps, cool. RELIGIOUSLY follow all the advice and tips. Get the speed right. It's one simple thing that makes the difference between a little bang or a day/season ender.

I didn't follow my own rules, I didn't watch where other people dropped in from to gauge the speed. Bad call.

You didn't speed check you mean. You can use the drop zone method, but it's going to vary between people. Not everyone goes the same speed even when flat basing.

Also, I just thought up an example to best explain to you the importance of speed checking vs drop zone...

Slope Style. Watch those riders between features and jumps. Sure, you can pick a drop zone for the first hit. After that, your drop zone will begin at the end of the last feature/jump you just hit. The only thing you can do after that is speed check.

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trapper Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Lansing Region Posts: 493	That kind of shit right there is why I'm so hesitant to start hitting jumps. I mean, what's the general progression (psychologically as well as physically) to it for someone who generally just cruises? Glad you're alright overall though man. Did you have a helmet? Last edited by trapper; 01-25-2013 at 01:41 PM.

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01-25-2013, 12:24 PM	#2771 (permalink)
david_z Official SBF Blogger Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Detroit suburbs Posts: 3,027 Blog Entries: 5	quick mini edit from yesterday. forgot the memory card for my Sony cam so ended up just taking a few clips from my phone. No problem, GS3 shoots in full HD so aside from being a little shaky (hopefully Youtube will fix that for me) it actually turned out pretty decent. For those of you who don't know the back story I basically have not hit any jumps in a few seasons since I knocked myself out. Just been real hesitant/fearful of them. I know I don't look that great on jumps but it was a big deal for me to A) hit the jumps (even the small ones) and B) throw a backside 180 (which I'd never done on a jump before).

01-25-2013, 01:36 PM	#2774 (permalink)
david_z Official SBF Blogger Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Detroit suburbs Posts: 3,027 Blog Entries: 5	And here's proof that I used to be able to hit jumps. I think from 2008.

01-25-2013, 01:46 PM	#2776 (permalink)
david_z Official SBF Blogger Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Detroit suburbs Posts: 3,027 Blog Entries: 5	Yep I was wearing a helmet unfortunately the helmet goes on my head not on my ass/hip That was a sort of freak accident. Basically we had gone inside for about 40 minutes to have a beer or two, temps dropped rapidly while we were in, and this was the first lap after we went back out. I underestimated/did not account for the change in speed as the slopes firmed up, went in waaaaay to hot, didn't commit to anything and went off the lip off-balance. Overshot the landing transition and came down on my ass on the flat. Out cold for about a minute. I called it a day after that. Could barely walk for a few days but was back on the slopes 4 or 5 days later I think. Hurt for quite a long while, and to this day now my right hip makes a clicking/popping noise that it never did before. It is funny to look at this and like Sam's accident and even though we both got pretty wrecked (him moreso) we both got really lucky because both cases could've been worse. But this is the only time in ~16 years of snowboarding that I ever really hurt myself until about a year later when I banged the same hip and saw stars falling off the wall ride... General progression assuming you can already ollie: Ollie off rollers and push piles, pop off side hits/transitions between trails, pop or ollie from the knuckle of jumps (to get a feel for landing on the transition), start hitting small jumps (5-10 footers - low consequence even if you knuckle them you won't blow out your knees or anything like you could on a much bigger jump), and then progress your way to larger & larger jumps. I was never really comfortable trying anything bigger than about a 25 footer which are about as big as they ever build at Pine Knob or Mt. Holly. I have seen 50 foot jumps in person and they scared the shit out of me.

01-25-2013, 01:54 PM	#2777 (permalink)
trapper Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Lansing Region Posts: 493	Cool I"ll keep all that in mind. Thanks. I always seem to have my worst falls near the end of the day/night or after going in for a break. Never fails. I think it would help if I ever get a chance to ride with people who can do these things already; I'm the kind of person who learns best by being shown how to do stuff. Everyone I go with either skis or just rides down the trails, which is still a lot of fun and all don't get me wrong.

01-25-2013, 02:58 PM	#2779 (permalink)
Karpediem Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 238	Just picked up a Contour Roam2 and thought I would post a link here in case anyone had been shopping them. I was mad I missed out when they were lowered from $199 to $169, but just checked now and got a new one for $149 and free shipping....not sure you can beat that price. For anyone interested... Amazon.com: Buying Choices: Contour ROAM2 Waterproof Video Camera (Black)