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post #2821 of 6785 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 10:26 AM
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I can give everyone some good news though. Check out snow totals up north through Friday;
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I am new here and new to snowboarding (only gone twice) but I have the NX2-AT. I tried them out a local shop. It was between the M9 and these. What I liked was I could set it, pop the back latch, step out and when I needed to get back in I just stepped in and locked it. The two times (past 2 weekends) then never needed adjusting. I set it the first time and that was it for the day.

They felt very stiff the first time out. Because I had them a little tight. I adjusted them to be looser (video on Flows site) and they felt much better yet were still secure.
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Leo and I both rode the NX2-ATs at Test Fest last year. I believe they were pre-production models and as such they had some definite kinks that still needed to be refined. The ratchets were not all that. Additionally, the release mechanism was really difficult. It actually took longer to strap/unstrap from these than it did from a traditional binding. This was the first time I had ever ridden Flow bindings, but Leo has owned a pair or two in the past so he may have more insight for you.

Check the reviews section on the forum I know there are other riders who have used these and used the production models which (hopefully) don't have the issues that we had with the demo versions.
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I use NXT-AT's from a few years ago and will never buy another type of binding...maybe if I moved out west I would consider straps, but never in Michigan. The newer M9's are pretty good and if you don't want to drop the cash for NX2's, I don't think you will notice much difference. You could always find prior year models for cheaper too.
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I have no experience with Flows or really any bindings except for some Burton and K2s. Sorry!

I can give everyone some good news though. Check out snow totals up north through Friday;
Damnit. I don't think there's any way I can get "up north" this weekend. What with the wife coming back from vaca and she knows I rode 3 days last weekend. I'll be able to ride, but most likely it will be Holly, Pine Knob, or Alpine.


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Damnit. I don't think there's any way I can get "up north" this weekend. What with the wife coming back from vaca and she knows I rode 3 days last weekend. I'll be able to ride, but most likely it will be Holly, Pine Knob, or Alpine.
I'm in a similar situation. Trying to see if I can swing up north (cab and crystal or crystal and crystal ), but I have exam on Tuesday. Hard to justify a weekend trip when I have an exam coming up.

If not, it'll be local for me too.


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Oh, about the Flow...

Dave and I tested the NX2 SE which is the newer strap system. The AT still uses the old I Powerstrap.

In my opinion, it's worth the upgrade because as you mentioned, it'll be stiffer plus it has new tech. Flow is notoriously hard to set up and kick into. The NX2 completely solves these problems. Very easy to set up and thanks to the new highback system, you can kick in without an issue no matter how tight you like to set the caps.

I completely agree with Dave on the locking mechanism though. The rep was showing us his weird index and thumb flicking maneuver, but in practice didn't work out so well with a foot strapped in. Maybe they fixed that for the production model or it's something that gets easier over time.

The reason the footbeds look higher is because they are canted. I believe they are 2.5 degree cants.

As for your Missions, yes they are softer to you because of your size. I told Sabatoa when he was buying his new boots that they would be softer for him than the stated flex because of his size. He's freestyling in what's supposed to be stiff boots.

Guys like you two always have to subtract a couple points from flex ratings for bindings and boots. Unlike snowboards, bindings and boots aren't built for specific weight ranges.

I have to caution you though about Flows... they are not for everyone. People coming off traditional straps have more adjusting to do. The feel is almost completely different when riding Flows with Powercaps.

Where do you live? I have an old pair of Flows that I do not use. I might have all the screws for it I dunno. They are large in size and heavier than tanks. But I'd be happy to let you try them out just so you can get a feel for how Flow rides even though the newer models are light years ahead of the ones I own.

Consider the RS if you can get a good deal on it as well. It's their stiffest Powerstrap model:

http://www.flow.com/Products/mens-bi.../FI12M1NX2RBLK


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Thanks everybody for the feedback. I hated to cause a deviation from the original purpose of the thread but I got what I was looking for so thanks.

Leo, thanks for the offer of trying out one of your Flow bindings for free, but I think I'd need an XL. I wear a 15 boot.

I think I am probably going to lean away from the M-9s just because I think that they may feel too soft for me. The RS model is out of my price range; the ATs are at the top of it as it stands. I just need to make the decision whether to bite the bullet and order them or stick with my Missions for the rest of the season. It's just now that I'm starting to ride a bit faster and turn more dynamically, I worry about these holding up considering my size.
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You want my personal advice?

Stick with the Missions for now. It's quite rare for a binding to blow out. If it does, they will be covered by warranty.

Unless the riding is unbearable for you. It's close to discount season. Things should start getting marked down in February.


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OK, I'll wait to see if I can score a deal later on. I don't want anything to fuck up my riding before my Boyne trip anyways. It's all dialed in pretty good now. I'd hate to get up there and have to waste time messing with something I'm not used to.

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