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post #3781 of 6785 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 03:30 PM
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Are you saying that you basically do bulk style lifting (heavy weight/average reps) on the big muscles, like legs/chest?
Yeah I've never had really good results at all with the whole low weight/many reps type of lifting. I do those sometimes, but only periodically for a week or two at a time to give myself a break switch it up. Or might throw them in as an aside if I have time.

My reckoning is this. If I want to build muscle/get stronger, then I lift heavier weights on compound movements like squats, bench, etc. If I want to look more "toned" then I need to eat better and do more cardio (both of which I hate btw, which is why I don't look toned, lol).

But I've had better weight loss success (long term) in sticking with the strength-focused routine versus a more cardio/lighter weight one. When you grow muscle you are improving your metabolic rate, making you more prone to burn calories during any activity or none-activity 24/7.

With those compound movements, I say that you get more bang for your buck than isolation lifts like curls or leg extensions, because you are using more muscles and effort, thus recruiting more muscle fibers and actually burning more calories during the session as well. Lifts like squats, when done with free weights, also work your core and are beneficial across so many sports it's not even funny. Having said that, I haven't been able to squat with heavy weight for 6 months due to this fucking groin injury.

I'm sure that I'm wrong with some of this and someone with more knowledge can call me out on it, but for me I've tried everything over the years and this is what I've had the most success with. My thing is that I have maybe 40 minutes of actual workout time 4 times a week right now, so I have to maximize that time. Everyone is different.
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8-9 miles at a time? Efffffff that.

Even when I was a runner (Sprint, Class A State Finals, 5 TD's in a single game) I hated distance and never ran more than 3 miles at once.

It's too damn boring.

I doubt your losing much benefit with the biking and walking with the dog anyways. In fact you're probably better off.

I get the warrior stuff to a point. Testing yourself and obstacle courses and all that. But I hate running so, yeah.

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Running fucking blows. Plus, it causes you to sprain your groin which stays injured forever. Fuck running.
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I don't understand the appeal of those things, either.
For me it is the mental and physical push. Push myself to train. Push myself to finish it. The feeling of accomplishment. I always want to push myself with things that are difficult.
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8-9 miles at a time? Efffffff that.
haha yeah once I get in to "running shape" (which is basically my current shape with moderately improved cardio/endurance) anything less than 4 miles felt like a waste of time. Often I wouldn't even stretch until the 1.5 or 2 mile mark.

My problem is that that mentality/attitude persists, so even when I am out of shape, it is very difficult for me to *start* running, because running 1 or 2 miles feels like a complete a waste of time.

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It's too damn boring
Nah I take the dog with me and put the headphones in. Kind of zen just to get away from everything for an hour or so.

But the caveat is that I have to be in shape enough to run that far. Which I am not.
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For me it is the mental and physical push. Push myself to train. Push myself to finish it. The feeling of accomplishment. I always want to push myself with things that are difficult.
Yeah I guess I get that if I think about it.

For me, it was always like, if I want something more difficult, I'd just add another mile or two to my course for the day.

Or, the one time I went to a 1pm Tigers game and downed 4 or 5 beers, I went home and ran 5 miles that night on account of having skipped my workout the night before. Difficulty level: 8.

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Plus their advertisments/promotional stuff has always rubbed me the wrong way, like, it's too "bro" or something. Can't put a finger on it.
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Yeah I've never had really good results at all with the whole low weight/many reps type of lifting. I do those sometimes, but only periodically for a week or two at a time to give myself a break switch it up. Or might throw them in as an aside if I have time.

My reckoning is this. If I want to build muscle/get stronger, then I lift heavier weights on compound movements like squats, bench, etc. If I want to look more "toned" then I need to eat better and do more cardio (both of which I hate btw, which is why I don't look toned, lol).

But I've had better weight loss success (long term) in sticking with the strength-focused routine versus a more cardio/lighter weight one. When you grow muscle you are improving your metabolic rate, making you more prone to burn calories during any activity or none-activity 24/7.

With those compound movements, I say that you get more bang for your buck than isolation lifts like curls or leg extensions, because you are using more muscles and effort, thus recruiting more muscle fibers and actually burning more calories during the session as well. Lifts like squats, when done with free weights, also work your core and are beneficial across so many sports it's not even funny. Having said that, I haven't been able to squat with heavy weight for 6 months due to this fucking groin injury.

I'm sure that I'm wrong with some of this and someone with more knowledge can call me out on it, but for me I've tried everything over the years and this is what I've had the most success with. My thing is that I have maybe 40 minutes of actual workout time 4 times a week right now, so I have to maximize that time. Everyone is different.
Yep, I hear you. I'm a classic mesomorph so I bulk easy and tone easy. (I also gain the wrong kind of weight easy if I get lazy but thankfully it comes off fast) That's probably why I get good results with the two methods of weight lifting.

I heard, and I have no info on the accuracy, that squats naturally increase your hormonal levels of testosterone which helps with muscle building and all that jazz. No idea if it's true but it hasn't *not* worked for me soo..

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For me it was the fact a group of us signed up and figured we had to do it because we paid for it. Only a 5K and was actually kind of fun. Got a free beer after and found out a lot of people don't drink beer so they were giving away their free beer tokens!
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Oh yah, and I have a bunch of random stuff that I would like to sell on Craigslist to fund my 2013/14 gear purchases....anyone looking for some tires, baby cribs, or dinner tables?
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I heard, and I have no info on the accuracy, that squats naturally increase your hormonal levels of testosterone which helps with muscle building and all that jazz. No idea if it's true but it hasn't *not* worked for me soo..
I've not heard that particular theory but we always knew that if you want to increase your bench, get on the squat rack. Always figured it had something to do with blood flow & cardiovascular activity, etc. -- squats work the largest muscles in your body.
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