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2015 Never Summer The Chairman - Review

Hey,

After my NS Raptor review I was asked by Never Summer Industries to test drive and review their new board - The Chairman. And a few days ago one arrived.

I got a Chairman X 165, since I like wider boards to eliminate any potential booting out during carves.

This review will come in parts. This is just a preview.

One thing I love so far - stunning design. Check it out:




I rode it a few times so far. I rode it in soft snow, afternoon bumps/moguls and hardpack with icy patches.
I do have some thoughts about the board, but just want them to mature and I'll do a proper write up soon.
It's definitely a fun board to ride and carve.

Here's a short preview video:



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Checked the Chairman out at SIA. Looks pretty sweet and I know Vince is stoked on it. If I ever get another resort day planned this season, going to try to borrow one for a spin.
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... Vince is stoked on it...
The more I ride it, the more I understand why...

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Update?

Hey there, any chance you can hint at the preformance of this board so far? I think it gets around a 9 or 10 on the stiffness scale so I'm curious how it rides since it sounds like it is more forgiving than one would expect for a board so stiff.
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Curious to hear what your thought are on this vs. the Raptor. I know this board is meant to replace both the Premier and Raptor. I'm a big fan of the Premier, but the Raptor wasn't my thing.
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The Chairman - performance

Hey,

The Chairman is definitely a more aggressive board than the Raptor. It is much closer to BX boards than previous models.

I find The Chairman to be quite a technical board.
There are some features known from earlier boards - like VPGS and extended RC Profile. When combined with really stiff flex and high damping they give some interesting results.

I find The Chairman super sensitive to fore/aft body position. Riding it feels like standing on a seesaw. If you're in the middle - the ride is smooth.
The moment you shift your weight fore or aft during the turn you feel the cambers engage and the board tightens the turn. All boards with variable sidecut do that, obviously, but it just seems to be amplified in The Chairman.

Not sure about forgiveness... it's rather aggressive. It does penalize you for your mistakes. At the same time it's easy to recover the edge in the turn. Which is almost as good as being forgiving.

The biggest drawback of the Raptor, which for me was the inadequate torsional stiffness, has been improved. The board rides at high inclination angles and stays smooth in the carve:



More on MeGustaSport - Never Summer The Chairman Snowboard Review - Part I - i'm still working on the final shape of the article...

I could be wrong on this one, but I think that The Chairman will be one of those love or hate boards. It's unique for sure.

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Thanks for the review Bart. It is much appreciated. I've been riding the Raptor for the past 3 seasons and like it a lot but I am looking to get a new board in the fall. Would you recommend the Chairman to someone who already likes the Raptor? Any notable differences other than the increased width and torsional stiffness? The variable sidecut also seems to be different between the Raptor and the Chairman. Does it ride that much differently? Any differences in the camber rocker profile?

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Thanks for the review Bart. It is much appreciated. I've been riding the Raptor for the past 3 seasons and like it a lot but I am looking to get a new board in the fall. Would you recommend the Chairman to someone who already likes the Raptor? Any notable differences other than the increased width and torsional stiffness? The variable sidecut also seems to be different between the Raptor and the Chairman. Does it ride that much differently? Any differences in the camber rocker profile?
I never liked comparing boards, unless I get to ride them the same day in the same conditions etc. but here it goes anyway.

Chairman is definitely stiffer, more aggressive and more advanced board than Raptor. I've since lent it to a few friends of mine, who ride less aggressively than I and watched them have hard time on it.
It takes more commitment than Raptor. The Raptor is a more allround board - if you saw my review of it, I did mention it's very versatile but fails at high inclination angles. The Chairman handles the aggressive, high board inclination angles riding well, but looses a bit on the versatility.
Increased stiffness, damping, torsional stiffness make a huge difference.
Variable sidecut radius - with the increase in stiffness you can feel the board biting into the snow, tightening the radius and pushing you out of the turn (and possibly up into the air) - I like this.
I don't know the difference between r/c profile. I'm not the kind of person that compares board specs and technical data. I'm all about how it feels and whether I like it. I like both boards a lot.

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Thanks so much for the additional information Bart. Between your review and Vince's discussion of the board in the 2015 thread, I think I now have a better picture of how the board rides. I think I'll be purchasing the Chairman once it's for sale to the public.
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LOVE the POV angle on that first video! Thats awesome!
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