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Twenty Five and Type Two

The good folks at Never Summer sent me a couple 16/17 boards as loaners for the season. The Type Two, and their 25th anniversary board, the Twenty Five. In return they just asked that I post some honest feedback, and throw up a couple pics. Iíve already posted some initial thoughts, with specs, etc., so this will be more of a subjective roundup. Just for good measure, and to provide some context for those who have ridden or are interested in NS boards Iím putting in some thoughts about the Swift and the West as well. Those are both my personal boards, and the 4 together represent all the boards I rode this season.

First, the Twenty Five: Mid-stiff, damp, Ripsaw camber, with a little taper. I had it in my head that this would be a directional Ripsaw, but after riding it a bit I realize it has a different temperament. Not quite as aggressive feeling, and not the carving demon that the Ripsaw is. Itís no slouch by any means though. I feel like anyone who used to ride the Heritage would like this board. Itís a really versatile board, especially for someone like myself who does very little switch riding. Itís killer in pow, crushes spring slush, but still felt mellow enough to cruise with the kid, and take on small park features without feeling cumbersome. I sort of wish it had a little more effective edge, but based on the specs compared to their other boards that I ride, I should probably be riding the 160, as opposed to the 158. That said, in the 158 it IS so versatile, and for a week trip to CO where I could only take one board it was the perfect choice for the mixed bag of conditions that I rode, and group of people I rode with. If I could have only one board to do everything, this SHOULD be it (more on that later). Iíll be buying this board for sure, but itís still a toss up which size.

On to the Type Two: Bottom line is, if I could find a way to have sex with this board I probably would. This board blew me away, and I just want to ride it all the time. Itís the newest version of the Proto. The initial Proto, the C/T, was one of just 2 NS boards Iíve ridden that did absolutely nothing for me. I didnít even bother to ever ride the Proto H/D because the C/T felt so lackluster to me. When they added the Ripsaw profile, and the asym sidecut it piqued my interest. Honestly, I still had fairly low expectations, but I was really curios to try an asym board. From the get go this things was just holy shit fun. Mid flexing and twin, itís awesome for chasing my kid around on. A generous effective edge for itís size, and the Ripsaw profile give it a super stable feeling despite not being overly stiff or damp. Itís super poppy, and super forgiving. I feel like Iím always ready to hit anything on this board (outside of big park features that are just over my head) because it just feels so natural, and even if I land all fucked up itís easy to reign in and just keep going. Iím fully sold on the asym sidecut too. I LOVE turning on this board so much. It shattered the notion for me that I need a stiff directional board to lay trenches. With the longish effective edge, Ripsaw camber, and tight radius asym sidecut, it just feels so right. I broke it out late in the day today after riding the Swift in powder, and I think I was smiling just as big laying perfect trenches on soft groomers on this thing as I was threading trees in pow on the Swift. I should probably just stop now, but as you can see I really canít say enough good things about this board. If I could only have one board to do everything, this one would not make the most sense on paper, but it would be impossible for me not to pick.

Swift: Love this board too. So good in pow, but fantastic carving up groomers as well. Despite being on the wider side, itís really quick and effortless edge to edge. Versatility seems to be a theme in my head when thinking about the boards I rode this year. All so different, but all could be daily drivers in their own right. This still ended up being a quiver board for me, but only because I had such a diverse selection of boards to ride. Regardless, itís my favorite pow board Iíve ridden, and part of that is because pow days always mean time riding groomers as well, and this board is the perfect animal for slaying pow, carving up groomers, and busting through late day chop.

West: I rode this board almost exclusively (along with a couple days on the Swift) for the first couple months of the season, after I rode a loaner extensively last season. Again, versatility is the name of the game with the West. I think it truly is the most versatile board Iíve ridden. Probably for that reason, with it having to give a little up here and there to be so good everywhere, I found myself not riding it at all after getting the Type Two, and ultimately sold it. Itís a fantastic board, and for someone who rides a little of everything and sees pow from time to time, and needs one board to do it all, youí d be hard pressed to find something better.




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what weight and boot size are you?
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what weight and boot size are you?
160lbs, size 10. I think I forgot to mention the sizes on the boards, but it's Twenty Five 58, Type Two 57, Swift 57, and West 59.
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I found myself not riding it at all after getting the Type Two, and ultimately sold it.
That pretty much sums it up! Good stuff, thank you.

How would you vote if it were between the Twenty-five vs. West? I agonised over the West vs. Twenty-five and went will the latter, so curious what your takes are.
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That pretty much sums it up! Good stuff, thank you.

How would you vote if it were between the Twenty-five vs. West? I agonised over the West vs. Twenty-five and went will the latter, so curious what your takes are.
For me personally it would be Twenty Five, without a doubt. For someone who dabbles more in the park, and sees less pow, I think the West would be the call.
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No park for me either, mostly hardpack steeps locally and Hokkaido powder once or twice a year.

Between yours and daegol's descriptions I have a good feel for how it will ride. Thanks once again.
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just curious, what other boards and profiles have you ridden? just wanted some background. thanks
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Nice review !!

I think you hit the nail on the head RE the 25. I just got back from my last day on this board and closing day of the season at Copper Mountain (bizarre snow today, BTW).

If I was in the market for a new board, the 25 would be it. I used to think the Chairman, but that would be too much overlap in function with my Donek Incline (softboot carver). These CRC are so damn versatile, that either would do and for my style of riding. With a quiver, the 25 is easily enough of a powder board and all around to compliment the Donek perfectly to cover the full spectrum of styles of riding I am interested..

I love all the Never Summer boards I have been fortunate enough to demo, but for a very specific style of riding, I still love trad camber every once in a while. If I was going for a NS quiver Killer, the Chairman would be it.

Disclaimer: I have not tried the Swift, West, Funslinger, Proto, or Type 2.

NS boards I have tried: Heritage, Raptor (own), Chairman 160 & 164, Ripsaw, 25, 25 split, Prospector split, prototype (Chairman ? variant), Prototype (25 ? variant).

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Your type 2 review reminds me of gnu ladies choice. Meaning it does everything and leaves nothing left to be desired. .....I know there is a woman's version of this too coming out....hmmm. I've also heard ladies choice next season will be c2 which makes me think the chick type 2 will be worth trying thanks for sharing
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just curious, what other boards and profiles have you ridden? just wanted some background. thanks
That's a loaded question. I'm a gear junkie with a severe lack of impulse control. I've mellowed over the last couple seasons, but used to buy and sell boards like crazy. Long way of saying I've ridden a lot of boards in a pretty short amount of time. Mostly CRC, a few flat, few full rocker (though not in 3 or 4 years) and a few camber. Only RCR board I can remember owning was a BSOD a few years ago. Most of the boards I've ridden are some variant of all mountain boards, more recently leaning towards the stiffer side of things. Haven't owned a dedicated park board in quite a few years. This is my 8th season riding. Favorite boards over the course of those 8 years (excluding those mentioned above) in no particular order: NS SL, NS Heritage, NS Ripsaw, Nitro Rook, Burton Directional Nug, last year's D-day Burns.
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