Never Summer SL 2011 Review - Page 15 - Snowboarding Forum

kimchijajonshim · 01-30-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowKanin

So I have a sizing question on the 2011 SL. I am 6'1" to 6'2" and weigh 210 lbs. I am currently wearing Nike Zoom Forces size 11 which is a large diameter boot, no compactness built into those, and I'm thinking of going with either the 158 or 161 (probably the 161 though, as this will be my do everything board, I freeride, ride pow, and I'm hoping to get into the park later this season). I also am currently using L/XL Rome 390 Bindings. I'm wondering though, is the 25.3 and 25.5 waist diameter (respectively) going to be too narrow for me? Should I be looking at the Legacy? Or will the SL still work for me? And what will I give up if I have to go with the Legacy??

I'm also seriously considering the Lib-Tech Dark Series, Lando, and TRS. Any and all input would be greatly appreciated!

You could go with either. 11 is borderline but the SL isn't a terribly narrow board so you should be ok so long as you're not rocking a very narrow stance or flat / forward angles on the backfoot. I would probably go with the 161, but I was at your weight a couple seasons ago (now around 190-195 lb) and rode (and continue to ride) a 158 no problem (although I think I'd prefer the 161).

If you go with the Legacy, it'll be a bit slower waist to waist. It'll also be stiffer. However, it'll also be more stable (more material underfoot), give you better float in pow (more surface area). Some people also prefer wider boards when jibbing. You could go either way depending on what you want.

SnowKanin · 01-30-2011, 09:53 PM

kimchijajonshim, thanks for the reply. I usually ride duck, 12 and -9, thinking of switching it up to 12 -12 or even 15 -12 perhaps as the season progresses. I'm currently riding a Sierra Crew (camber).

I was looking hard at the Dark Series by Lib-Tech, and their Lando as well. I know the Lando will be a better powder board than the dark, which is more what I want. I mostly ride all mountain/freeride so stability is important, and I plan on hitting the park later this season, but I want to ability to drop into deep pow when I feel like it.

I have a feeling I'll end up being more of an all mountain rider though...

Is the SL what I'm looking for? Does anyone have experience with these other boards and want to tell me how the SL will compare in pow, with stability/edge hold, and carving?

kimchijajonshim · 01-30-2011, 10:05 PM

The SL will get the job done for what you're looking for. With your angles you have nothing to worry about width-wise. Are you on the 159 or the 160w for the Crew?

I have ridden neither the Lando nor the Dark, so I can't help you there. I think an SL 161 would work great for you though based on what you're saying. Ultimately it's all going to be preference though. Though refrain, but it's the truth. You might prefer the Legacy, the Heritage, or a board from a completely different company entirely. There so many different takes on all-mountain freestyle-ish boards.

Put it this way: what do and don't you like about the Crew? I owned one last year (assuming it's last year's model) and that might provide a better basis for comparison.

SnowKanin · 01-30-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kimchijajonshim

The SL will get the job done for what you're looking for. With your angles you have nothing to worry about width-wise. Are you on the 159 or the 160w for the Crew?

I have ridden neither the Lando nor the Dark, so I can't help you there. I think an SL 161 would work great for you though based on what you're saying. Ultimately it's all going to be preference though. Though refrain, but it's the truth. You might prefer the Legacy, the Heritage, or a board from a completely different company entirely. There so many different takes on all-mountain freestyle-ish boards.

Put it this way: what do and don't you like about the Crew? I owned one last year (assuming it's last year's model) and that might provide a better basis for comparison.

My Crew is a 160w, which is actually more of a mid-wide from what I understand.

I'm a new snowboarder as of this year, so I can't really compare this (my first ever) board to anything else at the moment, lol. I know I like the way camber will hold and edge, and I like how I can engage an egde, then slide a little and carve it out if I want. I know the Dark Series is known for holding a little more of an edge than some would like. I would rather keep the carve ability of what I have. The Lando and SL both seem to do this well from what others have read. I have'nt really gotten into deep powder as of yet, but my Crew has done ok there. And I know I want something a little more playful, so as my skills continue to improve I can switch easily and move the board around quickly.

The SL keeps looking more and more attractive for what I'm wanting, plus Never Summer's 3 year warranty is enticing as well. What I'm hoping though, is to demo at least a couple of different boards by the end of the season and decide between something I've actually ridden and not just read about.

Its a dream, but we shall see...

kimchijajonshim · 01-30-2011, 11:09 PM

Honestly I'd just say ride the Crew until you kill it. It's not like you're on some pricepoint POS like a Lamar or a Morrow. Unless you're riding a lot (like 2-3x a week), you're at a point where you should be more concerned with improving your riding instead of upgrading your gear (outside of boot comfort). A lot of beginners (myself included) tend to get caught up getting new gear before they master the fundamentals, and it's a mistake. Saying screw it and just riding for the time being will make you happier and a better rider in the long run.

DJ ILLusive · 01-31-2011, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimchijajonshim

The SL will get the job done for what you're looking for. With your angles you have nothing to worry about width-wise. Are you on the 159 or the 160w for the Crew?

I have ridden neither the Lando nor the Dark, so I can't help you there. I think an SL 161 would work great for you though based on what you're saying. Ultimately it's all going to be preference though. Though refrain, but it's the truth. You might prefer the Legacy, the Heritage, or a board from a completely different company entirely. There so many different takes on all-mountain freestyle-ish boards.

Put it this way: what do and don't you like about the Crew? I owned one last year (assuming it's last year's model) and that might provide a better basis for comparison.

If you're really set on the SL, get the Legacy Pretty much the same board as the SL but a bit wider and slightly stiffer, but just as badass. You might wanna wait till the 2012 models come out though. After seeing the pics from SIA 2011, the NS line has way better graphics on their boards and its their 20 yr anniversary.

SnowKanin · 01-31-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kimchijajonshim

Honestly I'd just say ride the Crew until you kill it. It's not like you're on some pricepoint POS like a Lamar or a Morrow. Unless you're riding a lot (like 2-3x a week), you're at a point where you should be more concerned with improving your riding instead of upgrading your gear (outside of boot comfort). A lot of beginners (myself included) tend to get caught up getting new gear before they master the fundamentals, and it's a mistake. Saying screw it and just riding for the time being will make you happier and a better rider in the long run.

Yeah, I know your right, and I plan to keep riding my Crew throughout this season. I'm only going to *possibly* purchase something at the end of the season in may'ish when boards go on sale. I'm trying to get as many rides in this season as possible (which sucks since I live 6 hours from the nearest resort, but I'm doing what I can!). lol, I am totally addicted to this sport and I can't wait to get where I can hold my own anywhere on the mountain. Blues are where I'm at right now, gone down a couple of blacks, but I need to keep pushing myself out of my comfort zone.

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Originally Posted by DJ ILLusive

If you're really set on the SL, get the Legacy Pretty much the same board as the SL but a bit wider and slightly stiffer, but just as badass. You might wanna wait till the 2012 models come out though. After seeing the pics from SIA 2011, the NS line has way better graphics on their boards and its their 20 yr anniversary.

I've been considering the Legacy as well, I'm not sure which I'd prefer right now honestly. But like I said, I'm in no rush, so I'll keep gathering as much information as I can. Maybe I'll get the chance to ride them both sometime...

Really? Whats different about the graphics for 2012? I thought the griffin on the top-sheet of the 2011's was pretty BA... what are they doing for next year? Do you haz pics??

SnowKanin · 01-31-2011, 01:03 AM

Nevermind... I found it

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/new...neak-peak.html

drooooooooooolll!!!!!!

lol, I'm guessing the SL/Legacy will be the white one? Dang, pretty much every single one of those boards are dead sexy...

kino · 10-24-2011, 10:08 PM

quick question guys, i'm 5'5, size 9 nike kaiju boots and 135lbs (169cm/61kg). What size board should i go for in the sl? I'm tossing between 151 and 153. Also will i get any toe overhang? TIA!

Rustyyy · 02-14-2012, 09:47 PM

What's the difference between the 2009-2010 SL and 2010-2011 in numbers? I have a 2010/2011 now but my friends 2009 rides much looser but can't quite tell how much flex it really is. Likewise does anyone prefer this over the 2009 edition? I guess i was somewhat disappointed in that the 2009 has more flex but i'm trying to convince myself the 2010-2011s are better.

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01-30-2011, 09:53 PM	#142 (permalink)
SnowKanin Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 76	kimchijajonshim, thanks for the reply. I usually ride duck, 12 and -9, thinking of switching it up to 12 -12 or even 15 -12 perhaps as the season progresses. I'm currently riding a Sierra Crew (camber). I was looking hard at the Dark Series by Lib-Tech, and their Lando as well. I know the Lando will be a better powder board than the dark, which is more what I want. I mostly ride all mountain/freeride so stability is important, and I plan on hitting the park later this season, but I want to ability to drop into deep pow when I feel like it. I have a feeling I'll end up being more of an all mountain rider though... Is the SL what I'm looking for? Does anyone have experience with these other boards and want to tell me how the SL will compare in pow, with stability/edge hold, and carving?

01-30-2011, 10:05 PM	#143 (permalink)
kimchijajonshim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 191	The SL will get the job done for what you're looking for. With your angles you have nothing to worry about width-wise. Are you on the 159 or the 160w for the Crew? I have ridden neither the Lando nor the Dark, so I can't help you there. I think an SL 161 would work great for you though based on what you're saying. Ultimately it's all going to be preference though. Though refrain, but it's the truth. You might prefer the Legacy, the Heritage, or a board from a completely different company entirely. There so many different takes on all-mountain freestyle-ish boards. Put it this way: what do and don't you like about the Crew? I owned one last year (assuming it's last year's model) and that might provide a better basis for comparison.

01-30-2011, 11:09 PM	#145 (permalink)
kimchijajonshim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 191	Honestly I'd just say ride the Crew until you kill it. It's not like you're on some pricepoint POS like a Lamar or a Morrow. Unless you're riding a lot (like 2-3x a week), you're at a point where you should be more concerned with improving your riding instead of upgrading your gear (outside of boot comfort). A lot of beginners (myself included) tend to get caught up getting new gear before they master the fundamentals, and it's a mistake. Saying screw it and just riding for the time being will make you happier and a better rider in the long run.

01-31-2011, 01:03 AM	#148 (permalink)
SnowKanin Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 76	Nevermind... I found it http://www.snowboardingforum.com/new...neak-peak.html drooooooooooolll!!!!!! lol, I'm guessing the SL/Legacy will be the white one? Dang, pretty much every single one of those boards are dead sexy...

10-24-2011, 10:08 PM	#149 (permalink)
kino Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 37	quick question guys, i'm 5'5, size 9 nike kaiju boots and 135lbs (169cm/61kg). What size board should i go for in the sl? I'm tossing between 151 and 153. Also will i get any toe overhang? TIA!

02-14-2012, 09:47 PM	#150 (permalink)
Rustyyy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1	What's the difference between the 2009-2010 SL and 2010-2011 in numbers? I have a 2010/2011 now but my friends 2009 rides much looser but can't quite tell how much flex it really is. Likewise does anyone prefer this over the 2009 edition? I guess i was somewhat disappointed in that the 2009 has more flex but i'm trying to convince myself the 2010-2011s are better.