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Nolefan2011 · 05-11-2011, 10:24 PM

Leo, better all Mountain Freestyle?

2012 Proto vs 2012 Travis Rice?

Leo · 05-12-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nolefan2011

Leo, better all Mountain Freestyle?

2012 Proto vs 2012 Travis Rice?

Proto no question.

The Rice is significantly stiffer.

Nolefan2011 · 05-12-2011, 07:05 AM

Is a better comparison as Banana Magic? In that case, which way do you lean?

Leo · 05-12-2011, 07:21 AM

Banana Magic is also stiffer.

Banana Magic > T.Rice for all-mountain riding... Looooove the Banana Magic, but it's not the best freestyle board due to stiffness. I just love to ride when I'm on the Magic and do some natural hits. I really want to try it out west on powder.

Here's my faves:

All-mountain freestyle = '12 Proto (true twin, R.C.), '11 Ride Machete (true twin, LowRize)

Favorite freestyle board = '12 Evo (true twin, R.C.), '12 Forum Manual (true twin, ChillyDog) <--- I demoed this one for a day. Great no nonsense freestyle stick for the price

Favorite all-mountain = '11/'12 Banana Magic (true twin, advertised as BTX but it's actually between that and a C2), my '07 TWC (directional, camber)

Nolefan2011 · 05-12-2011, 11:50 AM

Leo, you are convincing me to try that Magic! The only site that didn't rave about it was thegoodride.com. They said groomers were average and sold it more as a park / freestyle board. That's interesting to hear, and now I have to try it.

Question then, is the Proto not that fun to just cruise around on? I really wanted something for the trees, bumps, and natural stuff, but still get some fun on groomers. I already have a bomber ride, and am looking for something for the trees, etc.

oskar · 05-12-2011, 11:52 AM

Thegoodride.com has some weird opinions sometimes

Leo · 05-12-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nolefan2011

Leo, you are convincing me to try that Magic! The only site that didn't rave about it was thegoodride.com. They said groomers were average and sold it more as a park / freestyle board. That's interesting to hear, and now I hbe to try it.

Park and freestyle? I totally disagree. But then again, I'm not a park rat so... I took it on some beginner kickers (10-15'ish) last season and it was great for jumps. Gave me a glimpse of what it would be like to take it on some big terrain out west. I really want to ride it in powder and do some bigger lines with it. The Banana Magic is starved out East here.

I can imagine it being a good park board for jumps only. Too stiff for jibs.

If you are all-mountain freestyle, Proto for sure man. If you do mainly jibs and ride in tight spaces, the Evo.

Leo · 05-12-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolefan2011

Question then, is the Proto not that fun to just cruise around on? I really wanted something for the trees, bumps, and natural stuff, but still get some fun on groomers. I already have a bomber ride, and am looking for something for the trees, etc.

I didn't say that lol. The Proto is a very good groomer board. So is the Banana Magic. Thing is, I don't like the Magic for freestyle. The board is overall stiff and more so in the tips.

What type of tree riding do you do? Here in MI, our tree runs are tight. They aren't wide open like out west. The Evo is my preferred board for tree riding here. The softer flex and more torsional give make for easy, quick edge transitions.

I hear the Proto is awesome in the trees, but people were riding it out at Jay Peak. The trees are more open out there. I took the Proto through the tree runs here as well and while it wasn't horrible, I wanted something softer torsionally. The Evo filled that spot.

Nolefan2011 · 05-12-2011, 01:32 PM

I guess the only way to find out is to demo. Sounds like the Evo would be a good compliment....I just was afraid it wouldn't be much fun on groomers. Head is now spinning.

Nolefan2011 · 05-13-2011, 04:10 PM

Hey Leo, sent you a message, have more questions for you

05-12-2011, 07:21 AM	#304 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	Banana Magic is also stiffer. Banana Magic > T.Rice for all-mountain riding... Looooove the Banana Magic, but it's not the best freestyle board due to stiffness. I just love to ride when I'm on the Magic and do some natural hits. I really want to try it out west on powder. Here's my faves: All-mountain freestyle = '12 Proto (true twin, R.C.), '11 Ride Machete (true twin, LowRize) Favorite freestyle board = '12 Evo (true twin, R.C.), '12 Forum Manual (true twin, ChillyDog) <--- I demoed this one for a day. Great no nonsense freestyle stick for the price Favorite all-mountain = '11/'12 Banana Magic (true twin, advertised as BTX but it's actually between that and a C2), my '07 TWC (directional, camber) __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

05-12-2011, 11:50 AM	#305 (permalink)
Nolefan2011 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 344	Leo, you are convincing me to try that Magic! The only site that didn't rave about it was thegoodride.com. They said groomers were average and sold it more as a park / freestyle board. That's interesting to hear, and now I have to try it. Question then, is the Proto not that fun to just cruise around on? I really wanted something for the trees, bumps, and natural stuff, but still get some fun on groomers. I already have a bomber ride, and am looking for something for the trees, etc. Last edited by Nolefan2011; 05-12-2011 at 11:54 AM.

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05-11-2011, 10:24 PM	#301 (permalink)
Nolefan2011 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 344	Leo, better all Mountain Freestyle? 2012 Proto vs 2012 Travis Rice?

05-12-2011, 07:05 AM	#303 (permalink)
Nolefan2011 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 344	Is a better comparison as Banana Magic? In that case, which way do you lean?

05-12-2011, 11:52 AM	#306 (permalink)
oskar Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reykjavik Posts: 88	Thegoodride.com has some weird opinions sometimes

05-12-2011, 01:32 PM	#309 (permalink)
Nolefan2011 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 344	I guess the only way to find out is to demo. Sounds like the Evo would be a good compliment....I just was afraid it wouldn't be much fun on groomers. Head is now spinning.

05-13-2011, 04:10 PM	#310 (permalink)
Nolefan2011 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 344	Hey Leo, sent you a message, have more questions for you