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post #631 of 925 (permalink) Old 11-29-2011, 05:43 PM
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Thanks for reply. How does the Rocker/camber respond differently on jumps and pipe verse a traditional camber?
It is easier to initiate spins on jumps. The board is more forgiving if you under-rotate (no edge catch), with little increase in washing out or over-rotating landings that is common with other rockered boards such Mervin BananaTech boards (Mervin owns LibTech, Gnu and Roxy). For ollies, you will notice you don't need to shift you weight as much to load up the board. NS rockered boards are fine on any sized jumps (provided you aren't riding some ridiculously short length board). Again, NS's mini rocker section give you good pop still (some other companies version of rocker boards has less pop since the camber is what gives the board its spring)

In the pipe, you give up a little bit of edge hold riding up the wall (the edge releases a little early due to the rocker), but it is very minor in the latest NS boards with Vario grip - I doubt most people would notice it. I still prefer my NS SL to some regular cambered boards in the pipe because of it's dampness and stability.

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I have ridden a few K2's reverse camber boards - the old rev. camber Jibpan, the Fastplant, and the Parkstar(?). They were better than Bananatech, but not quite as dialed in as Never Summer. I ridden some other ones as well (Burton V-rocker... didn't like it) but can't remember them at the moment.

I haven't ridden the newer C2 Bananatech board (which in my opinion is a direct copy of Never Summer's RC tech, but I'm not an expert on such things)

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I test rode a 157 last year and did fine...however I went with the 160 when I purchased. I'm 6'3" 215lbs btw
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I haven't ridden the newer C2 Bananatech board (which in my opinion is a direct copy of Never Summer's RC tech, but I'm not an expert on such things)
That was a fiery statement haha.

Anywhojibbers... Lib Tech's C2 has the camber section underfoot vs NS's camber section being outside the binding. This is going to be preferential. I like my camber section to start just outside the bindings like Never Summer's RC. This makes the board ride like a rocker when messing around, but carve like a camber when you engage an edge.

Shapes like the C2 give you this constant feeling underfoot. Similar to riding a skateboard with both feet above the trucks. It's not bad at all. Just not as forgiving when messing around. You have the camber section constantly being engaged with this shape.


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Just got my Proto today! (white base, 160) Super stoked, the pictures don't do this thing justice. I can't wait to break it in next week!

This may be a dumb question, but what kind of stance is everyone running on their Proto for all mountain/freestyle? Centered or slightly set back? I'm headed to wolf creek next week, so there is'nt a park to spend any time in, I'll be going all over the mountain. Whats a recommended stance on the Proto for that? My style is to ride just about anything and everything.
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Just got my Proto today! (white base, 160) Super stoked, the pictures don't do this thing justice. I can't wait to break it in next week!

This may be a dumb question, but what kind of stance is everyone running on their Proto for all mountain/freestyle? Centered or slightly set back? I'm headed to wolf creek next week, so there is'nt a park to spend any time in, I'll be going all over the mountain. Whats a recommended stance on the Proto for that? My style is to ride just about anything and everything.
I would stick with whatever you are comfortable with, assuming you don't have very specific riding style or a very specific type of board, there is no reason you should be really modifying your stance for the board.
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I would stick with whatever you are comfortable with, assuming you don't have very specific riding style or a very specific type of board, there is no reason you should be really modifying your stance for the board.
Yeah, your right. I'm just coming from a Sierra Crew (Burton Custom) to the Proto, which is designed with a slightly set back stance, and thats where I had it set. The Proto will allow me to be completely centered if I wish. I'll just play with it and see what I like best.
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Ok so i've been reading this thread almost all day. I bought a lib tech t.rice limited 153 that just arrived in the mail and i dont know if it was defective but it looked cheaply made. The tips were peeling a little (already!?) and the top sheet graphic looked kind of muddy/blurry if that makes sense.

Anyway after packing it up and sending it back i was looking online for another choice. After much thought i went with the proto ct in a 154. Im wondering from those who demo'ed it...Is it the right size? Im 5'7 and a solid athletic 190lbs. I consider myself an intermediate/advanced freestyle rider. Im coming from a Rossignol Retox and want something that will be playful but still able to handle high speed without feeling like im going to die. Hope this was a good choice.
(sorry for the rant. Kinda stoked to get the board)

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Just waxed my new board recently. Anyone else having trouble scraping wax off the board? This is my first RC board, i used to ride traditional camber but i'm having trouble scraping all the wax off the base. It's almost as if its uneven... i mean i can picture waxing TBT to be real trouble some but I thought the Rocker camber was just the profile and the bottom should still be flat...

might also be because my dry wall scraper has too much old wax built up on it.. maybe i'll go buy a real plastic scraper

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Just waxed my new board recently. Anyone else having trouble scraping wax off the board? This is my first RC board, i used to ride traditional camber but i'm having trouble scraping all the wax off the base. It's almost as if its uneven... i mean i can picture waxing TBT to be real trouble some but I thought the Rocker camber was just the profile and the bottom should still be flat...

might also be because my dry wall scraper has too much old wax built up on it.. maybe i'll go buy a real plastic scraper
Are you talking uneven horizontally across the base?

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Are you talking uneven horizontally across the base?
horizontally sooo the shorter length right? possibly? seems to be the only reason why i can't cleanly scrape all the wax off...

i guess the alternative is that this base really holds the wax much better than my old 07 agent and i have to scrape 2 times as hard?

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