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Old 12-06-2011, 10:56 PM   #651 (permalink)
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cheers for your help lonerider. the raptor will be way to long for me since the lowest height is 159. i'll probably end up getting the sl
It might be longer than what you want... but don't automatically assume that it is too long for you I have ridden 172-178 cm boards without issue before and for free-riding they were perfectly fine (the Rad Air Tanker 172 actually was easier to get through tight trees than my old Donek 155). I haven't ridden the Raptor myself though, so you would have to ask other people (again I would point to Shay) about it.

Good luck with the SL! Here's a fun video for you... the freestyle section (flatland 180, 180, pipe-riding, 360, 540, backflip) are in the second half of the video.


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Old 12-07-2011, 04:17 PM   #652 (permalink)
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thats awesome! im too used to the thinking that your board shouldnt be taller than your nose/jaw
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:55 PM   #653 (permalink)
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thats awesome! im too used to the thinking that your board shouldnt be taller than your nose/jaw
That's an out of date rule of thumb that store salespeople used to use when they were lazy and didn't want/know how to size a person properly based on their weight and riding preferences. It isn't valid anymore with modern board design features like blunted tips or larger upturned nose for powder.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:36 PM   #654 (permalink)
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A lot of people have weight/size questions and choosing an NS board in this thread. I found this chart on evo.com. Don't know how accurate it is, but it should help.


Never Summer Snowboard Size Chart - 2012 | evo
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:07 PM   #655 (permalink)
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I just thought i'd add my own review of this board to this thread.

Just a little background on my riding level. I've been riding for 5 or maybe 6 seasons now (15+ times each season). I'm more of a park oriented rider. I hit straight airs with simple grabs for 30 or 40 foot kickers, can do some jibs but sometimes with a lot of difficulty (fs board slides/fs 50/50 bs board slides).

picked up a proto ct 152 in october and paired it up with a pair of flux sf45s.

Note: the only other board I can truthfully compare this board to is my old 2007 rome agent 155

I took this board with me to tremblant this past weekend. The conditions were icy, only 3 boxes in the park and no jumps were up.

Pros: The first thing I really noticed about the proto is how fast it was on the slopes. The sintzzered 5501 base is super fast and glides over ice very well. The vario grip lives up to the hype. I was able to carve down the icey conditions no problem. The rocker camber profile provided a lot of pop when I was ollieing down steep drops and I didn't have any problems washing out when I landed. Board transitions from edge to edge really well. As I mentioned earlier, I'm more of a park rat but I with this board I really enjoyed bombing it down black runs. The 152 definitely rides like a 155 or maybe even a 157. Although it rides much longer this board also is able to hold its own on jibs. took this board to do some simple jibs on a flat box. Was able to lock in fs Boards no problem. I did eat shit real bad once cause I caught an edge on my nose.. still debating if i should detune tip and tail...

Cons: I didn't detune tip and tail so even with the blunted tips, the tip and tail seemed a lot catchier than my old agent (but i detuned the shit out of the tip and tail so it's not a fair comparison). I've heard other reviews say this board is more flexible and playful than the flex rating 5 listed on the NS website, but I found this board to be rather stiff. The rocker profile makes it easier to lift the nose or the tail but when you really try to press down on the board to lay down a solid tail press/tail block, you have to push down quite a bit (this maybe a pro for others.. i just thought this board would be a bit more playful). The sintzered 5501 base although fast, is awful at holding wax in... i saw dry spots after the first day of riding and unfortunately i didn't bring my kit with me. I'll be waxing after every session from here on out.

Overall: this board lives up to its name as an all mountain shred. It's fast, and can carve through just about any part of the mountain regardless of icey conditions. I haven't been able to take this board out on jumps yet but judging by how well it holds on ice and how poppy it is, I would imagine this board would be awesome on large jumps and even the pipe. While not amazing on jibs, this board still holds up quite nicely on jibs. not so great for butters/flatground tricks though.

I would recommend this board for anyone who likes to lap the entire mountain with the occasional visit to the park to hit huge airs.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:08 PM   #656 (permalink)
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what a wealth of info, just got through reading the whole thread and thanks for everyones input. I really wasnt looking at getting a new board this season but now im very tempted! I have the 155 08/09 slr (ye the first season of rc) cosmetically its scratched up a bit but the base is still pretty good with only a little bit of ptex. The way NS makes their boards this thing is bomb proof. I dont NEED a new board but i WANT one. I love the sound of the proto, how it will be more playful and lighter than my current SL. Much like the new SL sounds too. Argghh, then i also want new bindings (tt30s or sf45s).

Anyway my real question, how does the proto ct handle resort powder? I will be riding a lot in Revelstoke this winter, its got quite a bit of slack country hiking and it can get quite deep. from what i have been reading i should probably get the 154 as it rides like a 157 but im worried that is too small for the pow wow. Im 170lbs so right in the middle between the 154 and 157. If i went with the 157 im worried with the blunted nose and tail, that the effective edge will be a whole 4cms more than what i have now. I ride a lot of trees in Revy and i do like the turning radius of the 155, will a 157 proto ct have a much larger turning radius in the trees? And lastly, I know its a true twin so how does it handle the bindings with a bit of setback?
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what a wealth of info, just got through reading the whole thread and thanks for everyones input. I really wasnt looking at getting a new board this season but now im very tempted! I have the 155 08/09 slr (ye the first season of rc) cosmetically its scratched up a bit but the base is still pretty good with only a little bit of ptex. The way NS makes their boards this thing is bomb proof. I dont NEED a new board but i WANT one. I love the sound of the proto, how it will be more playful and lighter than my current SL. Much like the new SL sounds too. Argghh, then i also want new bindings (tt30s or sf45s).

Anyway my real question, how does the proto ct handle resort powder? I will be riding a lot in Revelstoke this winter, its got quite a bit of slack country hiking and it can get quite deep. from what i have been reading i should probably get the 154 as it rides like a 157 but im worried that is too small for the pow wow. Im 170lbs so right in the middle between the 154 and 157. If i went with the 157 im worried with the blunted nose and tail, that the effective edge will be a whole 4cms more than what i have now. I ride a lot of trees in Revy and i do like the turning radius of the 155, will a 157 proto ct have a much larger turning radius in the trees? And lastly, I know its a true twin so how does it handle the bindings with a bit of setback?
if you want something that will excel in powder get something with taper. I thought my 164 unity reverse was a rad board in pow until I rode my 158 charlie slasher. No leg burn, check. Ride completely centered over the board, check. much more difficult to sink the nose on landings, check. Mob low slope angle pow, check.

Having owned both a OG sl-r as well as a proto, IMO they are to similar for me to have both of them in my quiver. The rocker in never summers boards make them very efficient for quick tight radius turns, thats one of the pros of boards with reverse camber inbetween the bindings. They pivot super easy compared to cambered boards, imo. I'm the same weight as you and bought a 160 proto, I don't mind it at all for tight turns and weaving in and out of trees. I also have mine set up with one inch more nose than tail... but I generally set up my resort twins like that. Anyways, my opinion is that if you are going to be riding 10+ legit pow days for this year and years to come, do yourself a favor and buy something with taper, esp. since you already have a slr... but if you are set on the proto I would size up if you are primarily buying it for resort pow.......
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:00 PM   #658 (permalink)
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today's proto ct update. I'm figuring this board out more and more as I get mileage on it. 1. I like it a lot more with the 1 degree bevel. I feel way safer putting it sideways on a rail or box now. 2. I'm figuring out the flex pattern and its starting to work for me. I was pleasantly surprised today to find I could do nose blocks on it. the board flexed really naturally into the block. 3. It charges. conditions that would be a chattery workout on my evo are trouble free on the proto.
I'm of course figuring out what I dislike as well. While I can press/butter it fine, its not as fun as on the evo. I haven't' figured out the sweet spot for cab spins yet, and i'm having trouble doing nollies..but i'm sure it will come.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:52 PM   #659 (permalink)
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is the proto an absolute 100% true twin? i want the purple to be the front. picked up a pair of union atlas in purple and would like to pop em on the proto and look at purp as i ride.
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is the proto an absolute 100% true twin? i want the purple to be the front. picked up a pair of union atlas in purple and would like to pop em on the proto and look at purp as i ride.
You're right. It is a 100% true twin.
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