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Review: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT

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#1 · (Edited)
Review part 2 here with David's take on the board as well:

aGNARchy Proto CT Review

Introduction

For the past two years, I've slowly been getting sucked into the Never Summer hype around these forums. I wondered, "Can a line of boards really be that good?". Well, earlier last month, I was presented an opportunity of a snowboarding lifetime. Vince and Tracey from Never Summer contacted me and offered me a position in their online design team. What does that entail exactly? Well, they wanted my input on their products present and future. If I have any ideas/input regarding all aspects of their boards, then I am more than welcome to provide them. What's the catch? I have to ride and review a board of my choice. I chose the Proto CT because the tech specs sounded to be a perfect compliment to my riding style.

So you might be wondering what I thought about the board now. Well, I am a little angry at snowboardingforum to be honest. All that hype... all that talk... for what? A board that did not meet my expectations... THE NEVER SUMMER PROTO CT EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS. So why the anger? Because now I have to add another brand of boards to my want list. Now I want to ride them all! Thanks guys. This is not a good thing for a gear whore like me.

So here it is, my initial review of the excellent 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157:

Setup
Board: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157
Bindings: 2011 Rome 390 Boss L/XL
Boots: 2011 Burton Restricted Hail 9.5 US
Stance: +18/-12 Regular @ 23.5"

I am 5'9, 180lbs.

Handling
The Proto CT really shines in this department. The snow conditions was as good as it gets for Michigan at a generous 10-12". The Proto absolutely loves the snow. It held a solid edge when initiating carves and was more than easy to engage the sidecut. I did a series of short to medium to long carves and it was superbly stable and smooth. The Proto rode like a 160ish board, but handled like a 155ish. I attribute these characteristics to the longer effective edge and light weight (the blunted tips reduce the swing weight as well).

As the day progressed, the good snow had been pushed off to the side leaving the hardpack exposed. The Proto didn't have a single problem eating through it all. In fact, I felt so confident on this board, that I still rode aggressively even though there was crazy wind gusts with snow that made it hard to see. Of course, I didn't mach down the run in fear of hitting another rider, but I sure was carving it up on terrain I could barely see.

I didn't take the Proto into park jumps yet, but I definitely will soon. I was hitting some pow build ups though and it was super stable on those little jumps. On one occasion, I leaned forward too much and was sure I was going to eat snow. Much to my joy, I was able to ride it out. Come on, I got away with landing on my nose. That's pretty good. Not sure if this will be the case on an actual kicker, but I'll take it.

The only cons I could find about the handling is the edge to edge quickness and speed. It wasn't quite as fast as other boards I ride. This is because the board's width is a little wider than what I normally ride. The Proto CT 157 has a waist width of 25.3". My other boards are under 25". But to be honest, that is nitpicking and someone with even a size 10 boot won't likely have this problem. As for the speed, I found it to be a bit slower than my other rides. However, this is on factory wax and I will surely have to see how it rides after I personally wax it.

Pop
Very satisfying. One of the more poppy boards out there. Load up on either the nose or tail and off you go. I was having a ton of fun just ollieing over branches and clumps of snow.

Flex/Camber Profile
I'd give this board a 6 rating flex-wise. Just over middle-of-the-road. Perfect for all-mountain freestyle in my opinion. Torsionally, it is a bit stiffer which is one of the reasons why this board carves so well for a mid-flex.

I was very curious about Never Summer's now famous Rocker Camber profile. Love it. I'm going to say it... I like it more than my previous favorite, C2 BTX. While the C2 is in fact more playful, it doesn't lend to carving and stability (stable C2 boards are good deal stiff like the T.Rice). Never Summer got things right with their hybrid camber and this is probably another reason why a board of this flex can handle like a bigger, stiffer board. I like that their camber section feels like it has more bite. I haven't compared it next to a C2 yet, but I'd hazard a guess that NS's camber zone is a little more pronounced. Although there wasn't a ton of pow, I did take the Proto on the sides of the runs where everyone was neglecting the untouched snow build-up. The NS held up really well and gave me a glimpse of what riding actual pow would be like. Obviously, there are better pow boards out there, but the Proto CT does well enough.

Other Thoughts
I have to mention that I had a crash on the Proto. I was riding behind a skier and wanted take a path to the right. I did not realize that he had the same path in mind and he made an abrupt right turn. We ended up colliding causing him to lose his skies and me to go into a tuck and roll. Don't worry, I admitted fault and apologized and we both had a good laugh about it. Anyway, back to the point. I was sure I was going to find some damage on my board. Absolutely sure of it. Needless to say, I still can't find it and I want to give it another look over next time I ride. I guess Never Summer isn't kidding about the Carbonium topsheet being durable.

That brings me to my other point. The Carbonium topsheet not only looks good, but makes for a damn handy stomp pad. As in, you don't need one with this board. The whole topsheet acts as a stomp pad thanks to that cool looking texture.

Conclusions
Boy oh boy did Never Summer deliver. Trust me, I wanted every bone in my body not to like this board as much as I did just so I can have a different opinion than the rest of the crowd. But now, I realize that this Never Summer hype has a solid foundation. Is it the perfect board? Well, no. No board truly will be perfect. But for an all-mountain freestyle shredder, it comes pretty darn close.

Who do I recommend the Proto CT for? The intermediate-advanced rider that is looking for a do everything ride.

Big thanks to Vince and Tracey for giving me this opportunity. The Proto CT is definitely an excellent board that exceeded all my expectations.
 
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#344 ·
From the 2012 NS catalog "A very durable, scratch and chip resistant material with a high tech carbon fiber like visual". It's not carbon fiber. the carbon isn't the main strength of the carbon fiber sheet's scratch/chip resistance anyways, it's more the resin used.
 
#351 ·
Stoked, my 157 with the Black base has arrived. I like it! One small detail I have noticed that seems to have changed. The Eagle on the base is missing the NS on it's chest. Looks a bit strange without it, as all the pictures I have seen of it, have it. Happy I got the Green sidewalls though.
 
#373 ·
Something was waiting for me in the mail when I got home today. Oh happy day! :D





(cheers to fattrav for hooking me up with a supplier :thumbsup:)



I got neither green sidewalls nor a NS logo on the Eagle's heart! Personally I prefer not having the logo, but would have loved green sidewalls.
 
#366 · (Edited)
I'm... 110 lbs, 5'9". I guess I'd be classified as a beginner, and I'm just going to start in on the park this season. Think a 152 would be fine for me to deal with, for park stuff, as well as all-mountain, or should I head for a 150/152 Evo instead?
 
#372 ·
Just to get random on you...

Eating a whole chicken a day will actually make you lose/maintain your weight. It is the optimal way to diet. Of course, the chicken has to be rationed throughout the day. Grilled chicken every few hours is super healthy and the frequency of meals ensures you never get too full or too hungry. This in turn speeds up your metabolism so your body runs at maximum efficiency.

Down side would be that you have to wake up every few hours to eat during the night as well.

Sorry, that thought was just the remnants of my weight lifting days when I actually used to read about this stuff (never tried this diet, you need way too much will power for it).
 
#379 ·
No worries man, glad to see that you got a neversummer. It'll serve you well no doubt. Pity that it was such a mossion to get it (mine SL was too, but for different reasons). I've mentioned to Greg that he needs to look at bringing in the evo as well, maybe he'll start that next year.

Go figure on those import tariffs bringing up the prices so high. I know that some one somewhere is making alot of money off of the snow scene in Aussie and NZ.
 
#383 ·
Looking for some input on this board. Going out to utah next season and looking to replace my 2011 skate banana 156w with the proto ctx 155? Any advice for me on this board? Seems like a legit quiver killer. Does anyone recommend keeping the banana over the proto for utah or should i just try and get rid of it?

I am leaning towards the 155 as I am 6'1" 155lbs and I have heard it rides a little longer. I'm probably about a 50/50 split between park and freeriding. I like to rip and do some jibbing here and there and I mess around with jumps up to like 40ft.
 
#391 ·
I like the Proto much better than the Skate Banana, but the Evo would be a closer comparison based on flex. The Proto is stiffer than the Skate Banana. I don't consider the Evo or Skate a quiver killer. I do consider the Proto as one though. It's definitely my do-it-all board now. You'll probably enjoy the Proto for jumps a lot more than the Skate. My two cents (I don't hit 40 footers lol).

hey there leo great review i'm thinking of getting the proto whenever it comes out( if anyone knows how i can get my hands on one early like some people have already would really like to know) as for size i could use some help.
i'm 5'10 1/2. 183lbs but on a diet so that is dropping and will until the season starts. i have a gnu 157 now and was wondering if i should try a little shorter or stay at 157 for the proto.
planing on doing mostly groomers. but would like to start jibbing and buttering while hitting small/medium jumps.not doing any big kickers till i get more comfortable with jumps
thanks for any advice guys

I'm 180lbs and love the 157. Rather than size down so you can learn jibs and butters, why not consider the Evo? It's a softer flexing board that still handles the groomers well. It's better than the Proto in terms of jibs and butters due to the softer flex.

Unless you want a one board quiver. Then the Proto would be a better choice.
 
#384 ·
hey there leo great review i'm thinking of getting the proto whenever it comes out( if anyone knows how i can get my hands on one early like some people have already would really like to know) as for size i could use some help.
i'm 5'10 1/2. 183lbs but on a diet so that is dropping and will until the season starts. i have a gnu 157 now and was wondering if i should try a little shorter or stay at 157 for the proto.
planing on doing mostly groomers. but would like to start jibbing and buttering while hitting small/medium jumps.not doing any big kickers till i get more comfortable with jumps
thanks for any advice guys
 
#385 ·
The proto tends to ride a little longer, the 154 feels more like 156ish to me. I think most shops will be shipping them early August.

Daddies board shop is shipping aug 1st
Colorado ski shop ships early august
bcsurf says in stock, but not sure if they are shipping them (never ordered anything from them)
 
#387 · (Edited)
Nope, daddies board shop has an account on this forum. I think I recall them sometimes posting discounts and stuff too. I usually try to buy local, but I don't think my local shop will be getting any NS Infinity's in, and I will probably order one for my gf from daddies in a few days or so.

EDIT: You can also check out this section: http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boards/1265-online-retailers.html
 
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