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Review: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT

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#1 · (Edited)
Review part 2 here with David's take on the board as well:

aGNARchy Proto CT Review

Introduction

For the past two years, I've slowly been getting sucked into the Never Summer hype around these forums. I wondered, "Can a line of boards really be that good?". Well, earlier last month, I was presented an opportunity of a snowboarding lifetime. Vince and Tracey from Never Summer contacted me and offered me a position in their online design team. What does that entail exactly? Well, they wanted my input on their products present and future. If I have any ideas/input regarding all aspects of their boards, then I am more than welcome to provide them. What's the catch? I have to ride and review a board of my choice. I chose the Proto CT because the tech specs sounded to be a perfect compliment to my riding style.

So you might be wondering what I thought about the board now. Well, I am a little angry at snowboardingforum to be honest. All that hype... all that talk... for what? A board that did not meet my expectations... THE NEVER SUMMER PROTO CT EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS. So why the anger? Because now I have to add another brand of boards to my want list. Now I want to ride them all! Thanks guys. This is not a good thing for a gear whore like me.

So here it is, my initial review of the excellent 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157:

Setup
Board: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157
Bindings: 2011 Rome 390 Boss L/XL
Boots: 2011 Burton Restricted Hail 9.5 US
Stance: +18/-12 Regular @ 23.5"

I am 5'9, 180lbs.

Handling
The Proto CT really shines in this department. The snow conditions was as good as it gets for Michigan at a generous 10-12". The Proto absolutely loves the snow. It held a solid edge when initiating carves and was more than easy to engage the sidecut. I did a series of short to medium to long carves and it was superbly stable and smooth. The Proto rode like a 160ish board, but handled like a 155ish. I attribute these characteristics to the longer effective edge and light weight (the blunted tips reduce the swing weight as well).

As the day progressed, the good snow had been pushed off to the side leaving the hardpack exposed. The Proto didn't have a single problem eating through it all. In fact, I felt so confident on this board, that I still rode aggressively even though there was crazy wind gusts with snow that made it hard to see. Of course, I didn't mach down the run in fear of hitting another rider, but I sure was carving it up on terrain I could barely see.

I didn't take the Proto into park jumps yet, but I definitely will soon. I was hitting some pow build ups though and it was super stable on those little jumps. On one occasion, I leaned forward too much and was sure I was going to eat snow. Much to my joy, I was able to ride it out. Come on, I got away with landing on my nose. That's pretty good. Not sure if this will be the case on an actual kicker, but I'll take it.

The only cons I could find about the handling is the edge to edge quickness and speed. It wasn't quite as fast as other boards I ride. This is because the board's width is a little wider than what I normally ride. The Proto CT 157 has a waist width of 25.3". My other boards are under 25". But to be honest, that is nitpicking and someone with even a size 10 boot won't likely have this problem. As for the speed, I found it to be a bit slower than my other rides. However, this is on factory wax and I will surely have to see how it rides after I personally wax it.

Pop
Very satisfying. One of the more poppy boards out there. Load up on either the nose or tail and off you go. I was having a ton of fun just ollieing over branches and clumps of snow.

Flex/Camber Profile
I'd give this board a 6 rating flex-wise. Just over middle-of-the-road. Perfect for all-mountain freestyle in my opinion. Torsionally, it is a bit stiffer which is one of the reasons why this board carves so well for a mid-flex.

I was very curious about Never Summer's now famous Rocker Camber profile. Love it. I'm going to say it... I like it more than my previous favorite, C2 BTX. While the C2 is in fact more playful, it doesn't lend to carving and stability (stable C2 boards are good deal stiff like the T.Rice). Never Summer got things right with their hybrid camber and this is probably another reason why a board of this flex can handle like a bigger, stiffer board. I like that their camber section feels like it has more bite. I haven't compared it next to a C2 yet, but I'd hazard a guess that NS's camber zone is a little more pronounced. Although there wasn't a ton of pow, I did take the Proto on the sides of the runs where everyone was neglecting the untouched snow build-up. The NS held up really well and gave me a glimpse of what riding actual pow would be like. Obviously, there are better pow boards out there, but the Proto CT does well enough.

Other Thoughts
I have to mention that I had a crash on the Proto. I was riding behind a skier and wanted take a path to the right. I did not realize that he had the same path in mind and he made an abrupt right turn. We ended up colliding causing him to lose his skies and me to go into a tuck and roll. Don't worry, I admitted fault and apologized and we both had a good laugh about it. Anyway, back to the point. I was sure I was going to find some damage on my board. Absolutely sure of it. Needless to say, I still can't find it and I want to give it another look over next time I ride. I guess Never Summer isn't kidding about the Carbonium topsheet being durable.

That brings me to my other point. The Carbonium topsheet not only looks good, but makes for a damn handy stomp pad. As in, you don't need one with this board. The whole topsheet acts as a stomp pad thanks to that cool looking texture.

Conclusions
Boy oh boy did Never Summer deliver. Trust me, I wanted every bone in my body not to like this board as much as I did just so I can have a different opinion than the rest of the crowd. But now, I realize that this Never Summer hype has a solid foundation. Is it the perfect board? Well, no. No board truly will be perfect. But for an all-mountain freestyle shredder, it comes pretty darn close.

Who do I recommend the Proto CT for? The intermediate-advanced rider that is looking for a do everything ride.

Big thanks to Vince and Tracey for giving me this opportunity. The Proto CT is definitely an excellent board that exceeded all my expectations.
 
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#450 ·
Good to hear guys thanks. I don't exactly ride the big mountains either. Mainly the poconos in PA, but I also snowboard in Canada for a week every winter and hit up Vermont too which are decent size. I've never been to anything huge so I can't compare. I'd like to get out west asap though.
 
#487 · (Edited)
I hear ya, the white does get ugly quick. I've used the bindings once and their already a bit brownish :D
But I had to hike in mud to get to the snow that time so ...

Here's a pic of the base.
Just received my Proto (white base) -- very excited, but I noticed that mines does not have "NS" on the base, unlike like Leo's pictures.


In any case, the carbonium topsheet is just gorgeous.
 

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#456 · (Edited)
I hope I don't regret doing this, but I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Proto CTX. Now I can start looking forward to this winter. It sucks the season doesn't start around here until mid December though.

Can anyone recommend a good binding to pair this with? I've heard Rome 390's or Targas and Burton Cartels. Anything that might be better? I'm looking for an "all mountain" binding that's not too stiff or too soft.
 
#458 ·
I've been riding with Burton Cartels the last two years. I don't have any complaints, but those are the first bindings I've owned so I can't really compare them. I can't use them though cause they are the EST bindings so I have to get a new pair. I would consider getting them again, but I'm willing to try somthing new if it's better.
 
#466 ·
Hey everyone, i think i've asked this question a few times but don't think anyone has answered yet.

I am probably going to get the 152 Proto CT but I have a size 10 boot. I ride goofy with a 24.5" stance angled 15/-12. Should get away with the CT or should I get the CTX

The CT waste is listed at 24.4 vs the CTX at 25.8

Wanted to add that I'm actually hesitant towards getting a CTX and would prefer riding the regular model.
 
#469 ·
You guys will be fine. You are listing the waist width. It'll be wider at the insert point.

I had high profile size 10 boots and my previous boards were all under 25cm at the waist (I like deeper sidecuts).

I be rockin that steezed duck 18/-12 @ 23.5"
 
#473 ·
Proto CT holes pattern

I've been reading this post since begin and few months ago I was just happy that there will be a new board in never summer's line. Now I'm all into this board and think that this kind of posts should be forbidden because can ruin our budgets :rolleyes:.

I have a question regarding holes pattern on 154 size and stance options. The reason why I'm asking is because I will use it with burton cartel re:flex bindings which as all of reflex bindings have limited (to one) stance options in their discs. In this case my only stance options are limited to those coming from board.

Thanks, Lucas
 
#488 ·
Got to say I love the topsheet, it just has that feeling of quality in it. The matte carbon fibre look helps to hide any scratches, if indeed there are any (haven't bothered to have a close look yet).

As far as comments I had read somewhere previously that you don't need a stomp pad on these carbonium topsheets, I found when riding a T-bar that my free foot could still slide around easily enough. I guess there's some measure of extra traction, but it's not like the topsheet grips like velcro or anything. That being said, I'll still make do without a stomp rather that put one on the nice looking topsheet, lol.
 
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