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Review: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT

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#1 · (Edited)
Review part 2 here with David's take on the board as well:

aGNARchy Proto CT Review

Introduction

For the past two years, I've slowly been getting sucked into the Never Summer hype around these forums. I wondered, "Can a line of boards really be that good?". Well, earlier last month, I was presented an opportunity of a snowboarding lifetime. Vince and Tracey from Never Summer contacted me and offered me a position in their online design team. What does that entail exactly? Well, they wanted my input on their products present and future. If I have any ideas/input regarding all aspects of their boards, then I am more than welcome to provide them. What's the catch? I have to ride and review a board of my choice. I chose the Proto CT because the tech specs sounded to be a perfect compliment to my riding style.

So you might be wondering what I thought about the board now. Well, I am a little angry at snowboardingforum to be honest. All that hype... all that talk... for what? A board that did not meet my expectations... THE NEVER SUMMER PROTO CT EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS. So why the anger? Because now I have to add another brand of boards to my want list. Now I want to ride them all! Thanks guys. This is not a good thing for a gear whore like me.

So here it is, my initial review of the excellent 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157:

Setup
Board: 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 157
Bindings: 2011 Rome 390 Boss L/XL
Boots: 2011 Burton Restricted Hail 9.5 US
Stance: +18/-12 Regular @ 23.5"

I am 5'9, 180lbs.

Handling
The Proto CT really shines in this department. The snow conditions was as good as it gets for Michigan at a generous 10-12". The Proto absolutely loves the snow. It held a solid edge when initiating carves and was more than easy to engage the sidecut. I did a series of short to medium to long carves and it was superbly stable and smooth. The Proto rode like a 160ish board, but handled like a 155ish. I attribute these characteristics to the longer effective edge and light weight (the blunted tips reduce the swing weight as well).

As the day progressed, the good snow had been pushed off to the side leaving the hardpack exposed. The Proto didn't have a single problem eating through it all. In fact, I felt so confident on this board, that I still rode aggressively even though there was crazy wind gusts with snow that made it hard to see. Of course, I didn't mach down the run in fear of hitting another rider, but I sure was carving it up on terrain I could barely see.

I didn't take the Proto into park jumps yet, but I definitely will soon. I was hitting some pow build ups though and it was super stable on those little jumps. On one occasion, I leaned forward too much and was sure I was going to eat snow. Much to my joy, I was able to ride it out. Come on, I got away with landing on my nose. That's pretty good. Not sure if this will be the case on an actual kicker, but I'll take it.

The only cons I could find about the handling is the edge to edge quickness and speed. It wasn't quite as fast as other boards I ride. This is because the board's width is a little wider than what I normally ride. The Proto CT 157 has a waist width of 25.3". My other boards are under 25". But to be honest, that is nitpicking and someone with even a size 10 boot won't likely have this problem. As for the speed, I found it to be a bit slower than my other rides. However, this is on factory wax and I will surely have to see how it rides after I personally wax it.

Pop
Very satisfying. One of the more poppy boards out there. Load up on either the nose or tail and off you go. I was having a ton of fun just ollieing over branches and clumps of snow.

Flex/Camber Profile
I'd give this board a 6 rating flex-wise. Just over middle-of-the-road. Perfect for all-mountain freestyle in my opinion. Torsionally, it is a bit stiffer which is one of the reasons why this board carves so well for a mid-flex.

I was very curious about Never Summer's now famous Rocker Camber profile. Love it. I'm going to say it... I like it more than my previous favorite, C2 BTX. While the C2 is in fact more playful, it doesn't lend to carving and stability (stable C2 boards are good deal stiff like the T.Rice). Never Summer got things right with their hybrid camber and this is probably another reason why a board of this flex can handle like a bigger, stiffer board. I like that their camber section feels like it has more bite. I haven't compared it next to a C2 yet, but I'd hazard a guess that NS's camber zone is a little more pronounced. Although there wasn't a ton of pow, I did take the Proto on the sides of the runs where everyone was neglecting the untouched snow build-up. The NS held up really well and gave me a glimpse of what riding actual pow would be like. Obviously, there are better pow boards out there, but the Proto CT does well enough.

Other Thoughts
I have to mention that I had a crash on the Proto. I was riding behind a skier and wanted take a path to the right. I did not realize that he had the same path in mind and he made an abrupt right turn. We ended up colliding causing him to lose his skies and me to go into a tuck and roll. Don't worry, I admitted fault and apologized and we both had a good laugh about it. Anyway, back to the point. I was sure I was going to find some damage on my board. Absolutely sure of it. Needless to say, I still can't find it and I want to give it another look over next time I ride. I guess Never Summer isn't kidding about the Carbonium topsheet being durable.

That brings me to my other point. The Carbonium topsheet not only looks good, but makes for a damn handy stomp pad. As in, you don't need one with this board. The whole topsheet acts as a stomp pad thanks to that cool looking texture.

Conclusions
Boy oh boy did Never Summer deliver. Trust me, I wanted every bone in my body not to like this board as much as I did just so I can have a different opinion than the rest of the crowd. But now, I realize that this Never Summer hype has a solid foundation. Is it the perfect board? Well, no. No board truly will be perfect. But for an all-mountain freestyle shredder, it comes pretty darn close.

Who do I recommend the Proto CT for? The intermediate-advanced rider that is looking for a do everything ride.

Big thanks to Vince and Tracey for giving me this opportunity. The Proto CT is definitely an excellent board that exceeded all my expectations.
 
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#782 ·
Hey,

I'm 6ft with 175 lbs and have size 11 Nitro Team TLS boots, which are probably a little bigger than comparable Burton boots.

Not sure which Proto to get. I'm kinda leaning towards the CT in 157 but last year I checked out a Gnu Park Pickle 153 and also 253mm Waist with my Setup and had quite a bit of overhang on the heel side as you can see on the picture:





Would be happy for an answer. Thanks :)
 
#786 ·
The overhang on that doesn't look too bad to me. The problem is, it's very hard to tell by pictures. The other problem is that everyone rides different with different angles. The only real way to tell when overhang isn't so obviously too much is to actually strap in and mimic a carve. You can do this by holding onto something. Mimic the carve and see if your toe/heel touches the ground before you even fully engage.

Just for reference, my buddy David Z rode my 157 Proto with his size 11 32 TM 2 boots which are pretty bulky. He had 0 issues on it and he rides everything including lots of park.
 
#783 ·
I've asked for input on bindings and received some really good feedback. Does anyone think a more responsive binding could be a problem for someone in my position?

Essentially, I've narrowed it down to the 390 Bosses and Flux DMCC lights. I don't know if I should be going for more or less response. My binding was the ride rodeo last year and I didn't care for it.

I have the 157 Proto. Thanks.
 
#790 ·
Howdy Folks!

Didnt take me lurking for too long to come to the conclusion that NS is the way forward. I've just finished my season down here in New Zealand. I'll be headin home for a week in March for some boarding in France before I return to work on the NZ slopes yet again next season (June time).

My question is this.. When did NS start to release details of their 12/13 models and when did they go on sale this year? The reason I ask is i'll be in the market for a new board next year, and if the new 13/14 board is released around June time I can wait. If its not released that early I might aswell buy a 12/13 Proto while I still can and have it waiting for me back home for my french trip in March and take it back to NZ for their season.

Chur... Richie
 
#791 ·
You usually get to see pics of the next year production line in late January around the time of the SIA show. You might not get to see specifications of these products till much later in the year, often very late spring or early summer. Boards are "released for sale" usually in late August or early September. As far as when they go on "sale," -- usually they don't. NS does not overproduce their product line and sells their popular boards out by mid winter (Proto being one of those). You might find an odd size ProtoX for sale, but this "sale" won't be for much (?10% off).

My suggestion is to buy what you want while you can get it this year, but don't wait long. Proto's sold out by mid-season last year.
 
#792 ·
Cheers mate thats a great help. By sale I meant general sale not discounted. No point waiting until next season for a 13/14 board if they aint released to Aug/Sept.. my season will be 3/4 done! I'll pick up the 12/13 Proto asap and have the agony of looking at it pick up dust until atleast march!
 
#810 ·
hey,
have been looking all over but havent found an answer:

im 5'5 at 120lb with US size 9 feet, would the 152cm proto be too much of a handful for me?

taking into consideration that last time i rode i had to rent a board 2cm to small for me, and it turns out i love smaller boards, it allows me to take much faster snappier turns :yahoo:

thanks for the help
 
#816 · (Edited)
Help me please!

Hopefully some knowledgeable people are still watching this thread. I am going to be purchasing a Never Summer Proto CTX probably today and was wondering if you could help me on sizing. I am 6' and 165 pounds to start with. I currently ride an old cambered Morrow Revert X 157 just so you know where I am coming from (I know, OLD BOARD 1997). I am looking at either getting the CTX in a 155 or a 158. I need the CTX version due to my size 12 Nike Kaiju's and Never Summer suggests I ride a wide. I mainly do freeride and freestyle as I live in the midwest, but I try to take an annual Mountain trip out west. I am actually going to Crystal Mountain in Washington Friday-Sunday this weekend! :yahoo: With all of this in mind, since I have heard with the blunted tips make this board ride like it is 3cm longer than normal, what would you suggest that I purchase? 155 or 158? My other option is the Legacy, but I have never had a true twin tip, so I am not fully sure... I think I want to try something different since it would be nice to learn to ride switch better...
 
#819 · (Edited)
Leo, a 157 isn't an option for me as I need the CTX which only comes in 155 or 158 in my size range. Do you think I would have any issues with stability on the 155? Keep in mind, I do like to bomb runs sometimes just for fun, but for the most part I am just carving at a fast pace. I like speed, but I love to pop off any roller or jump whenever I find one. Also keep in mind that I will be using this an an all-mountain board whenever I go out west with the chance to hit powder... I can't afford multiple boards, nor do I go enough to justify it, hence why it has taken me this long to upgrade my boards! ha ha! Thanks again for the fast responses.

Mysticfalcon - How tall are you? Just wondering so I can gauge the difference between us.
 
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