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Forgot to talk about the stability on steeps. Added this to the handling section:

The Cobra is a great board to lay carves down on. Just tilt on an edge and put in work. Handled all the blacks I threw at it well including ones with mogul fields. Again, it's not as damp or beastly as the Heritage though.

So....

Where are the "steeps" you're riding in Michigan?
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Where are the "steeps" you're riding in Michigan?
Thanks for the snarky reply. I already disclosed where I ride and many already know how I ride bunny hills.

Steep for Michigan. Blacks here are blues out west.

But you knew that already. Don't read my reviews if you don't like them. Snowolf rides backcountry and talks about the Cobra's stability so go read his stuff.

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Thanks for the snarky reply. I already disclosed where I ride and many already know how I ride bunny hills.

Steep for Michigan. Blacks here are blues out west.

But you knew that already. Don't read my reviews if you don't like them. Snowolf rides backcountry and talks about the Cobra's stability so go read his stuff.
I heard that it's not so much the steeps are that much steeper or the blacks harder, it's that they're mainly a lot longer out west.



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I heard that it's not so much the steeps are that much steeper or the blacks harder, it's that they're mainly a lot longer out west.



Flame on, Westies!
No, they are steeper although they generally tend to be wider and more open with less trees/moguls (not always true though). Here is an example photo of a double black diamond. This is the "drop in" for the Wall at Kirkwood.



Squaw's KT-22 only rates a single black diamond and becomes blue half way down.



That's not to say there aren't challenging slopes elsewhere... just there are more out West as the mountain are bigger. I grew up in New England any moved out West after college.
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We do have a few legitimate steeps here (not like that wall obviously) but as Sabatoa pointed out, the steel sections are very, very short.

Now, couple this with the fact that you can tell how damp a board is by riding just regular mellow blues. I rode a heritage here and I knew seconds into my run that nothing in Michigan will unlock its potential.

I make no secrets about where I ride or my riding ability. This is why NS doesn't send me a heritage or raptor to review.

They sent me the cobra because while it can perform very well on big mountains, it performs equally well on small ones. I mentioned I loved it in the trees for the tight turns I had to do.

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Leo,

Thanks a lot for clearing that up for me!

I've decided on the SL, i think it is perfect for where im at and where i want to be!

Jim
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We do have a few legitimate steeps here (not like that wall obviously) but as Sabatoa pointed out, the steel sections are very, very short.

Now, couple this with the fact that you can tell how damp a board is by riding just regular mellow blues. I rode a heritage here and I knew seconds into my run that nothing in Michigan will unlock its potential.

I make no secrets about where I ride or my riding ability. This is why NS doesn't send me a heritage or raptor to review.

They sent me the cobra because while it can perform very well on big mountains, it performs equally well on small ones. I mentioned I loved it in the trees for the tight turns I had to do.
So that's why they sent you an Evo
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No, they are steeper although they generally tend to be wider and more open with less trees/moguls (not always true though). Here is an example photo of a double black diamond. This is the "drop in" for the Wall at Kirkwood.



Squaw's KT-22 only rates a single black diamond and becomes blue half way down.



That's not to say there aren't challenging slopes elsewhere... just there are more out West as the mountain are bigger. I grew up in New England any moved out West after college.
That video looked so.much.fun.

Dammit winter needs to get here.

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"Dammit winter needs to get here."

OMG YES.

After reading this review, I really want to try the Cobra. Even if its just riding groomers at boyne or nubs nob. In the quiver next to the Evo... And, I'm sorry if I missed this, and I don't want to create some off-topic disscusion, but where do you ride Leo or Sabatoa? Anwhere near Ann Arbor? I'll probably take a few passes through there this winter, and I wouldn't mind stopping for some riding.
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"Dammit winter needs to get here."

OMG YES.

After reading this review, I really want to try the Cobra. Even if its just riding groomers at boyne or nubs nob. In the quiver next to the Evo... And, I'm sorry if I missed this, and I don't want to create some off-topic disscusion, but where do you ride Leo or Sabatoa? Anwhere near Ann Arbor? I'll probably take a few passes through there this winter, and I wouldn't mind stopping for some riding.
Leo spends most of his time at Holly and Pine Knob, I believe Crystal Mountain is his favorite hill but he's busy and it's hard to get him up there.

I'm in Lansing so while it sucks that nowhere is close to me, the upside is that everything is the same distance so I'll hit the SE Michigan hills if I'm riding with Leo and/or David_Z but normally I just take long weekends up north to the Boynes, Caberfae, Crystal and all that.

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