REVIEW; Neversummer Raptor 156 - Page 10 - Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums
SnowboardingForum.com is the premier Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-25-2013, 12:26 PM   #91 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
scottyroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Wasatch Mtns, Utah
Posts: 29
Default

On another note - some great points were made about the dampness. I felt the same way. I loved the stability and comfort the dampness provided. With SnoWolf saying the dampness and stiffness is going to be increased to a 9... I'm VERY curious to see how that affects the ride.
scottyroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-25-2013, 12:31 PM   #92 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
wernersl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 415
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
On another note - some great points were made about the dampness. I felt the same way. I loved the stability and comfort the dampness provided. With SnoWolf saying the dampness and stiffness is going to be increased to a 9... I'm VERY curious to see how that affects the ride.
I, too, have been eagerly awaiting such a review on this years Raptor. Im weird and like things like 20th anniversary and all but I would consider selling mine if they make those changes to this years deck.
wernersl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:15 PM   #93 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 177
Default Re: REVIEW; Neversummer Raptor 156

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
Thanks for the review! I think you are right on the cusp of the ability level to truly appreciate this board for what it is. I'm glad you were able to spend your first year on an SL to learn on and 'graduated' to the Raptor in your own due time. Not to say the SL isn't capable... it is just a more forgiving freestyle board great for any rider level. The Raptor rewards experience and technique for hard-charging riders. I'm not sure this is the place to admit your masochism, though... might scare a few people away juuuuuussssst playin.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm sure I'm nowhere near the ability level to use this board to its full potential, let alone the SL, but I definitely look forward to progressing on it.

I think as snowboarders, we're all masochists to some degree otherwise we'd be, well... skiers. Haha, just kiddin'




Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
On another note - some great points were made about the dampness. I felt the same way. I loved the stability and comfort the dampness provided. With SnoWolf saying the dampness and stiffness is going to be increased to a 9... I'm VERY curious to see how that affects the ride.
I'm sure I wouldn't mind more dampness, but being as my weight fluctuates between 145-150, I'm not sure I'd want it to be much stiffer. But hey, when I get a lot better who knows. By then I'll trade in to the newer, stiffer, models. :-)
Mel M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:31 PM   #94 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
That's good to know. I wear 2009 Burton Rulers in 10.5 so I'm thinking I'm in pretty good shape.



Raptor 164 it is!

One thing I've noticed on my brand new Raptor 164 and a 'new-in-plastic' demo 163 NS Cobra is that the Saucer Wax that is on there out of the factory is not great. Amazing speed on a hard-held edge but I feel the board tap the brakes when bombing or leveling out in the flats. I would recommend slapping on a fresh hot wax before the first ride. Can't wait to get on the mountain again!
Totally agree, in Snowolfs Summit review he mentioned the wax being subpar so I waxed before my first time on the slopes. Actually got a comment from a skier on a notoriously painful cat-track for boarders... "you must've got a pro wax on that board"...

danm
danm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:34 PM   #95 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel M View Post
Thought I would chime and give my impressions on two days of riding.

First a little about me...

Second year riding and between this year and last year, I've had 30+ days predominately on East Coast hardpack/ice. I believe I'm a solid intermediate, but also have no illusions of my own ablilty. I'm still trying to get the finer points of down unweighting as well as fore/aft movements to control my speed down the steeper runs. I thought I'd give a little insight from a second year rider b/c it seems most on this forum that have had or ridden this board have 10+ yrs experience.

On to the review...

I'm coming from an NS SL 153 and was wondering if the change to a 156 Raptor would be worthwhile, but I got insight from SnoWolf and others saying there is a HUGE difference in speed and carving ability. I just want to say that is ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

This thing just LOVES to grip Eastcoast hardpack! I thought I'd have a little more trepidation charging the steeps with this thing, but in fact, I'm a lot more confident in it than my SL. Now, don't get me wrong... I know that SL can charge the steeps fine too b/c my friend who's been boarding for 7+ seasons still goes down the mountain faster and in better control with his SL, but just strictly from a board to board comparison, this is exactly what this thing was built for. It's just a very stable, damp ride. It's damp, but gives you enough feedback to react to terrain. When you go over really rutted out groomers, my body doesn't jerk around as much and I can maintain a much higher speed. It just blasts through that stuff.

Compared to an SL I found this board really likes to point downward. When engaging the SL's sidecut, I found I was turning more perpendicular to the fall line than with this board. It took some getting used to because, of course, this leads to quicker acceleration and top speed.

When using this board compared to my SL, I've been able to ride a LOT more aggressively due to the stability and dampness, but at the other end of the spectrum, I've also had to pay a TON more attention to it as I'm riding it. This wasn't something I was used to and I've found myself in pretty scary situations because of it. I now know what people mean by this board getting you in trouble. I was charging down coming from a heelside to toeside turn, didn't pay enough attention to the terrain and got caught off guard by some big rutted out bumps. I didn't have my knees relaxed enough and got caught off balance. Luckily I was able to dig in last second and save myself from running into a tree line. Also, I'm kind of ashamed to admit that getting used to this board on the first day, I actually fell on my ass on some pretty flat greens. I just was not paying attention and hit some patches, plus I did not detune my tip/tail, so that might have had something to do with it. I rode the flats that same way I rode my SL, but it didn't let me get away with it like my SL did. Second day, had now issues lazily cruising along the greens with my wife.

This board certainly rewards technique because on runs where I'm "off" and don't down unweight and shift fore/aft properly, it felt a bit like a lumbering plank. The first day on it, I found myself ruddering more than I wanted to. You can say this for most boards, but more so this than my SL. So getting technique down is paramount. I'm a bit of a masochist though, so I like how it punishes you for bad technique. I hope with more experience, I'm able to be more efficient and ride this thing smoothly down the steeper terrain.

So, in short, coming from a second year rider, if you're starting to ride more dynamically down the steeps, this board is a blast and definitely worth owning. If not, then I suggest practicing, because I can't see this thing being fun at all doing static turns down mellow terrain.
Nice review, thanks for adding to this thread! Pretty impressive for a second year guy to be making turns on a Raptor... as you progress you're REALLY going to appreciate this board...

danm
danm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #96 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
On another note - some great points were made about the dampness. I felt the same way. I loved the stability and comfort the dampness provided. With SnoWolf saying the dampness and stiffness is going to be increased to a 9... I'm VERY curious to see how that affects the ride.
Yeah, c'mon 'Wolf, you're holding out on us!

danm
danm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:40 PM   #97 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
scottyroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Wasatch Mtns, Utah
Posts: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danm View Post
Totally agree, in Snowolfs Summit review he mentioned the wax being subpar so I waxed before my first time on the slopes. Actually got a comment from a skier on a notoriously painful cat-track for boarders... "you must've got a pro wax on that board"...

danm
I get frustrated with slow people on those narrow and notoriously slow cat tracks. I should just chill but when my fresh wax job is going to waste having to speed check for people and having to unstrap and hike.... then I get hot and sweaty from hiking and I become "that guy" for other people going fast. Then I get cold on the lift from the sweatiness from hiking. Then I end being near-hypothermic from the cold sweatiness...yargh! You don't want to be "that guy" so make sure to wax before your first time out on a new board I just got an idea for a DirecTV "don't end up in a gutter" commercial...
scottyroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 04:56 PM   #98 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post
I get frustrated with slow people on those narrow and notoriously slow cat tracks. I should just chill but when my fresh wax job is going to waste having to speed check for people and having to unstrap and hike.... then I get hot and sweaty from hiking and I become "that guy" for other people going fast. Then I get cold on the lift from the sweatiness from hiking. Then I end being near-hypothermic from the cold sweatiness...yargh! You don't want to be "that guy" so make sure to wax before your first time out on a new board I just got an idea for a DirecTV "don't end up in a gutter" commercial...
Totally agree
danm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 06:10 PM   #99 (permalink)
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
JDMITRB18CR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Jersey City NJ
Posts: 86
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danm View Post
Yeah, c'mon 'Wolf, you're holding out on us!

danm
I hope NS / someone can lend 'Wolf a '13 Raptor so he can also write up the differences between the 2013/2014 models.. i'd lend him my 156, but i know he usually rides a 158/159
JDMITRB18CR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2013, 06:17 PM   #100 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMITRB18CR View Post
I hope NS / someone can lend 'Wolf a '13 Raptor so he can also write up the differences between the 2013/2014 models.. i'd lend him my 156, but i know he usually rides a 158/159
He's actually testing a 156 for a direct comparison to his BillyGoat... I'm way closer to him, but I ain't sending my Raptor anytime soon!
danm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:23 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums