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Old 03-15-2013, 02:25 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Day one of SnoWolf's Review of the 2014 Raptor is up! Sounds like the dampening in the binding areas does improve the stability. Not to get nit-picky, but I wish the 2014 Raptor came in a red-orange color like this year. The yellow... meh. The yellow color doesn't say "hard-charging-aggressive" like the red did with the 2013 board. I do love the phoenix graphic on the bottom though across the line instead of the Never Summer text. Get a red-orange color option (164!) and keep the phoenix die-cut on the bottom and it would be perfect.
I dont know...I kind of like it. Actually reverts back to year one's color scheme and overall look. I still prefer my 11/12 graphic though. The blue smoke on the black topsheet...clean and mean. Wonder if I could get them to build me a 14 with my 12 graphic?!
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IMHO Raptor graphics, 2013 >> 2014.. but i'm biased since i own the 2013 =P
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:54 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Actually reverts back to year one's color scheme and overall look.
My point exactly I think the original Raptor was pretty good... this year's isn't BAD. I just think they could have built on this year's aggressive red styling. I think they nailed the top sheet on the 2013 Raptor and nailed the base on the 2014 Raptor. I'm not a huge fan of the yellow border all the way around. Kind of just... meh. Maybe they can change it last second like the Cobra! The good news is graphics don't affect the performance of this awesome board.

By the way, I'm seeing great deals all over the place for the 2013 Raptor. Down to around $440. I got mine on Backcountry.com about a month ago for full price and they just refunded me $180 for the difference since the price dropped within 30 days. I freaking love that place... and you can't beat their lifetime unconditional returns!
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:01 PM   #144 (permalink)
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My point exactly I think the original Raptor was pretty good... this year's isn't BAD. I just think they could have built on this year's aggressive red styling. I think they nailed the top sheet on the 2013 Raptor and nailed the base on the 2014 Raptor. I'm not a huge fan of the yellow border all the way around. Kind of just... meh. Maybe they can change it last second like the Cobra! The good news is graphics don't affect the performance of this awesome board.

By the way, I'm seeing great deals all over the place for the 2013 Raptor. Down to around $440. I got mine on Backcountry.com about a month ago for full price and they just refunded me $180 for the difference since the price dropped within 30 days. I freaking love that place... and you can't beat their lifetime unconditional returns!
NICE!!! Although I paid full price and have absolute zero regret doing so, getting one for 440 is fucking incredible!

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:17 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Alright well I want a big mountain powder board so what would you recommend that comes in a smaller size. Would the Jones Flagship be a similar type of board also is the 154 of that too big?
Depends on how you ride. I (120lbs, app. 450 days of boarding) have a Flagship 158 and love it (yes, its stiff, yes its work, but for me that's part of the fun ) and my husband (190lbs, app. 800days) rides a Raptor 164. We like to ride fast/aggressive, to carve as long as the muscles will work and then call it a day. If one likes to cruise around (that's what a lot of people acctualy are doing when they say they're "carving") most of the time, both boards are wrong. The Flagship is too stiff to ride forceless (you'll get concussion from the bumps if you don't use your legs to absorb), the Reptor gets bitchy and bucks you off if you don't concentrate. They're like thoroughbred horses, they want to run fast or they get uncomfortable.

Got the opportunity to ride the Raptor 164 today in various conditions and felt comfortable with it. Got almost bucked off in the first two carvs (hell, the acceleration is incredible) cause I didn't pay enough attention but after getting used to that, it was fun. Though bit heavy. I'm pretty sure, I would be happy with a Raptor 156 or 159, even if I'm "only" 120lbs. The Flagship is 158 and still suits my weight.

Best thing is to test the boards, check, if they match your riding style and if you feel comfortable. Weight is only one variable of the calculation.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:34 PM   #146 (permalink)
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NICE!!! Although I paid full price and have absolute zero regret doing so, getting one for 440 is fucking incredible!

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My thoughts EXACTLY. At full price the board is worth every penny... getting a steep discount is icing on the cake, especially since I just randomly checked the new price on my 29th day after buying it (they price match for 30 days)
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:16 PM   #147 (permalink)
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This thread is of interest to me since I am jumping into NS. I am just not sure which board. I am between the SL, Heritage, and now considering the Raptor. I have been riding for a total of 6-seasons, and the past 2-seasons I have been riding a bit more aggressive and getting a feel for flatland tricks and taking rollers. I would be coming from a 155 Burton G-Twin. I mostly ride East Coast (Blue, Jack Frost, etc.) but do a yearly trips to Maine and have explored out West like Flagstaff, AZ and parts of Canada. At this point, it looks like the SL may be more my flavor since that's their "jack of all trades" board, but the Heritage and Raptor do seem mighty appealing for the aggressive rider who likes to carve, and the carbonium top sheet seems like a stellar thing to have.

Just wanted to see if anyone had any further input to help sway my decision. I am already pretty sure I will invest in the Proto CT since that is a true twin, but would like another board as well. From the reviews on here, it seems the Heritage would give me less chatter versus the SL and Raptor when hitting bumps?

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This thread is of interest to me since I am jumping into NS. I am just not sure which board. I am between the SL, Heritage, and now considering the Raptor. I have been riding for a total of 6-seasons, and the past 2-seasons I have been riding a bit more aggressive and getting a feel for flatland tricks and taking rollers. I would be coming from a 155 Burton G-Twin. I mostly ride East Coast (Blue, Jack Frost, etc.) but do a yearly trips to Maine and have explored out West like Flagstaff, AZ and parts of Canada. At this point, it looks like the SL may be more my flavor since that's their "jack of all trades" board, but the Heritage and Raptor do seem mighty appealing for the aggressive rider who likes to carve, and the carbonium top sheet seems like a stellar thing to have.

Just wanted to see if anyone had any further input to help sway my decision. I am already pretty sure I will invest in the Proto CT since that is a true twin, but would like another board as well. From the reviews on here, it seems the Heritage would give me less chatter versus the SL and Raptor when hitting bumps?
If you want a true twin, spend time in the park jibbing and the like, or riding switch a lot the Raptor isn't for you. However I think the Raptor could be a great fit for you on the East Coast ice. As far as flat ground tricks, the Raptor isn't going to have enough flex for easy buttering but if you are just looking at ollie'ing or hitting rollers, the Raptor does that great and has a lot of pop for jumps. It is an agressive hard charging board that can power through any snow condition with relative ease if the rider is intermediate or above.

If you are looking to jib and butter on the flats but still want some good off piste performace I would look into the Proto CT or Cobra. In fact, the Cobra may be exactly what you are looking for since it also has the Carbonium top sheet you want. The Cobra's stance is very slightly set back but that will serve you well if you are wanting to get more aggressive.

I have ridden both the Cobra and the Raptor and for serious mountain-slaying speed and stability (which I love and adore) the Raptor is definitely the stick of choice. The Cobra was more playful and I could really swing it around but I felt like it had a governor on it when it came to speed and stability. The Cobra was definitely more of a jibber but still held up great in the pow and all mountain stuff.
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Thanks for the feedback, scottyroo! As I said, I am pretty set on investing in the Proto CT to continue on my park, jibbing, etc since that is a true twin. I am looking for a 2nd board as an all mountain cruiser to help me on the East Coast ice, and would also be able to get me around when I am in Maine. Just wasn't sure if I should jump into a flagship board (Raptor) so quickly since I am switching brands and adding the benefit of the vario side cuts. That is why I mentioned my interest in the SL.
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Thanks for the feedback, scottyroo! As I said, I am pretty set on investing in the Proto CT to continue on my park, jibbing, etc since that is a true twin. I am looking for a 2nd board as an all mountain cruiser to help me on the East Coast ice, and would also be able to get me around when I am in Maine. Just wasn't sure if I should jump into a flagship board (Raptor) so quickly since I am switching brands and adding the benefit of the vario side cuts. That is why I mentioned my interest in the SL.
The Proto and the SL cater to basically the same type of rider... you just get more features and tech in the Proto. If I were you I would opt for a Raptor for a board at the other end of the spectrum of the Proto to give you some more diversity. If you still aren't sure you want to go all the over to the Raptor, I would get a Cobra.
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