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post #161 of 211 (permalink) Old 04-03-2013, 05:38 PM
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Thanks for the quick replies...

Now, I'm a bit torn based on the advice towards the 161x...

The waist width the 164 is about 0.5 cm less than my T5, and the 161x is about 0.5 cm more.

I do ride with an agressive stance at +27 & +12 degrees, so maybe that would help make the narrow board better...
With that said, Markiel - Your aggressive stance definitely helps your case staying on a regular. Boot heel/toe overhang is important but even more important is how your bare feet match up to the board. Your bare feet should be equal to or barely overhang the board at your given stance angle. Too much and you'll eat it on a hard carve, too little and you won't have the leverage you need.

Even with your stance I would recommend getting a 161X. On a regular I think you'll be fine with your front foot at a 27 degree angle but the back foot may cause you trouble from time to time. Either way I don't think its the end of the world if you stick with a regular. Good luck!
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Thanks for the tips...

I'll do the bare foot test, and make the decision. I think there are still a couple of 161x's hanging out there.

It sounds like people are going shorter on boards now days, I guess the rocker thing helps for the float so boards don't need to be as long to float in the pow.

Speed isn't really an issue for me - I don't care how fast I go, I just want to be able to handle some steeps and some pow.

Next question will be on bindings...
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Thanks for the tips...

I'll do the bare foot test, and make the decision. I think there are still a couple of 161x's hanging out there.

It sounds like people are going shorter on boards now days, I guess the rocker thing helps for the float so boards don't need to be as long to float in the pow.

Speed isn't really an issue for me - I don't care how fast I go, I just want to be able to handle some steeps and some pow.

Next question will be on bindings...
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With that said, Markiel - Your aggressive stance definitely helps your case staying on a regular. Boot heel/toe overhang is important but even more important is how your bare feet match up to the board. Your bare feet should be equal to or barely overhang the board at your given stance angle. Too much and you'll eat it on a hard carve, too little and you won't have the leverage you need.

Even with your stance I would recommend getting a 161X. On a regular I think you'll be fine with your front foot at a 27 degree angle but the back foot may cause you trouble from time to time. Either way I don't think its the end of the world if you stick with a regular. Good luck!
Yep, barefoot measurement is absolutely the best way to gauge waist width... 24.8 is my new golden rule!!!

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Here is one for $412 at Backcountry.com. They are the best. Lifetime unconditional returns and free shipping! Can't beat that
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Hell at 412 I'll buy it... and sell it!!!

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I think you mis-read my post. I'm the one that has the 10.5 boot and have been fine with the 164 regular. I was suggesting that he should look into the 161X since he is the one who has an 11.5-12 boot.
Yes, you are absolutely correct - I mis-read, so my comment was wrong/does not apply. That is why I deleted my post.
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Well,

Thanks for all the posts and contributions to this thread...

No secret, I LOVE THIS BOARD... (as do many others)...

Would like to try a 14' just to feel the difference in damping and stiffness but if I don't, I feel like I've got the perfect board soooooo......


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Well,

Thanks for all the posts and contributions to this thread...

No secret, I LOVE THIS BOARD... (as do many others)...

Would like to try a 14' just to feel the difference in damping and stiffness but if I don't, I feel like I've got the perfect board soooooo......


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The final word after an awesome night of riding is that this board just kicks some serious ass. I actually found myself searching for the shady icy spots because the board was more as home on that compared to the soft corn. Til next year! (or whenever any of you ride the 2014 raptor)
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So how does the barefoot test work?

How much over hang is too much?
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So how does the barefoot test work?

How much over hang is too much?
Read the fucking forum...
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