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07-20-2016 03:44 PM
kosmoz some time ago I was also 30lbs leaner and could dunk, so fucking what? Now I can't reach the rim, just the net with both hands

And that bisping almost KO was a fault of the judge, who was hesitating to interrupt or not to interrupt the fight, because bisping lost his mouthpiece. Ofc it's bispings fault he thought the fight being interrupted to put his mouthpiece back, but nevertheless, he ate that bomb while being distracted. He had no problems with Andersons punches when focused.

Deacon, it's fair fight then, but it's definately easier to knock someone out cold, when you have 30% more power. Good luck seeing a knockout in 3year old taekwondo match
07-20-2016 03:25 PM
linvillegorge Numerous fighters who ha e trained with Lawler say he's the hardest puncher they've ever felt. Have you noticed all the guys getting popped for PEDs lately? USADA hasn't cleaned up the sport, it just means more of the cheaters are actually getting caught. The last four guys Lawler has fought (Hendricks, Condit, Matt Brown, and McDonald) are all notoriously tough with great chins. There are exactly 4 TKO losses put of 117 combined fights for those guys and one of them was a blown knee (Condit), not actual strikes. Lawler brutally KO'd Ellenberger in his first UFC fight.

Silva isn't the guy he used to be, but he very nearly KO'd the current champ in his last fight before Cormier. Many people felt that fight should've been stopped. Who has he KO'd? Vitor Belfort, former LHW champ Forrest Griffin, Yushin Obama, former MW champ Rich Franklin (twice), one of the best chins in MMA history in Chris Leben.

Good lord, man...
07-20-2016 03:15 PM
Deacon
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when was it? When PED's were in a game big time? Look at last three years, tons of fights, zero of one punch KO's. Lawler is notorious for his durability and heart, he just can take more, his oponents gets tired of punching him and from there he takes over
Silva is old, and against cormier he was also after surgery, without shape and with PED's taken away. Any top 10 guy in the division can kill him, not to talk about ligt heavyweights. And who and whe did he KO? Stephan Bonnar in 2012? Belford in 2011? How did he perform against Diaz, while being on PED's? He just doesn't have it.
If they all take PEDs, then it's not really an advantage is it?
07-20-2016 03:11 PM
kosmoz
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Lawler isn't a one punch KO artist??? LOL!!!





Though, honestly I have no clue what point you were trying to make or what Lawler has to do with this conversation. But Lawler not having one shot KO power? Hilarious. Dude doesn't just KO people, he makes you wonder if he killed them.
when was it? When PED's were in a game big time? Look at last three years, tons of fights, zero of one punch KO's. Lawler is notorious for his durability and heart, he just can take more, his oponents gets tired of punching him and from there he takes over
Silva is old, and against cormier he was also after surgery, without shape and with PED's taken away. Any top 10 guy in the division can kill him, not to talk about ligt heavyweights. And who and whe did he KO? Stephan Bonnar in 2012? Belford in 2011? How did he perform against Diaz, while being on PED's? He just doesn't have it.
07-20-2016 03:00 PM
linvillegorge
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lawler is also not a one punch KO artist, but that doesn't mean that he is no threat on the feet. He mushes you up and makes you quit, thas guaranteed, when those one punch KOs may never come. How much of these we saw with Nelson, Hunt. If it connects - you are done. If not - bisping wins
Lawler isn't a one punch KO artist??? LOL!!!





Though, honestly I have no clue what point you were trying to make or what Lawler has to do with this conversation. But Lawler not having one shot KO power? Hilarious. Dude doesn't just KO people, he makes you wonder if he killed them.
07-20-2016 02:44 PM
kosmoz lawler is also not a one punch KO artist, but that doesn't mean that he is no threat on the feet. He mushes you up and makes you quit, thas guaranteed, when those one punch KOs may never come. How much of these we saw with Nelson, Hunt. If it connects - you are done. If not - bisping wins
07-20-2016 01:58 PM
linvillegorge With Silva, there was no threat of wrestling. Jones is a very good wrestler himself and actually outwrestled Cormier in their first fight. You can bet that Cormier trained hard to make sure that wouldnt happen again. On the feet, Jones isn't a big power guy. He rarely hurts guys with punches or kicks. His best strikes are elbows - both standing and on the ground.

Anderson is as proven of a KO artist as there is in MMA and never shoots for takedowns. Jones wins fights through physical domination. He has relatively limited ability to finish in an instant. That's exactly what Silva does as well or better than anyone who has ever fought. The guy can end a fight instantly at any point. Seriously, they're VERY different fighters.

I don't know why you're trying to give Silva a total pass here. If he wasn't in shape, he shouldn't have taken the fight. He showed up to get paid and limit the damage that he took, period. I bet at no point in negotiations did he offer to take less money since he wasn't in top condition...
07-20-2016 01:48 PM
kosmoz there were rumours, that Silva wanted just 2 round fight, he was totally out of shape, so he had no option but to stall and survive. No blame on him, he undergone a surgery quite recently (thats why Uriah Hall fight was cancelled).

Tell me in what way Silva was totally different than Jones? He was even less dangerous: not so lenghty, not so strong, Jones has everything and more what Silva has.
07-20-2016 01:47 PM
Snow Hound Right up until the bell I thought he might Sonnen him. Would have been awesome but super embarrassing for DC.

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07-20-2016 01:43 PM
linvillegorge Bisping stood with him because he had no other option. Cormier is a wrestler first and foremost. He was an Olympic wrestler. If you thought Cormier was going to stand with Anderson on short notice - remember, he was training for an opponent with a completely different style - then you were fooling yourself and setting yourself up for disappointment.

My disappointment was that Silva did absolutely nothing but stall from the bottom. He had to know he was going to be taken down, yet he never once attempted to generate offense from the bottom. I've never seen Anderson stall from the bottom. He normally has a very active guard. He showed up that night to cash a check.
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