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|01-29-2014 02:53 AM|
Originally Posted by tonicusa View Post
|01-29-2014 12:07 AM|
|tonicusa||That's a perfectly good stance width for your height.|
|01-28-2014 11:58 PM|
Man that's awesome! exactly what i needed to see. I knew you had to load the tail with your weight, but the slide to quickly load it is the little technique that makes all the difference to get it to snap.
My ollies just explode with the rocker board, but i've been really struggling trying to manhandle the camber....... will try it tomorrow or thursday. My stance is not that wide, about 23" on the Forum rockered and 22" on the Live rcr (i'm 5' 11")
|01-28-2014 11:37 PM|
You can't ollie a cambered board like your pickle and rockered boards. It's a totally different technique.
I ride a Capita NAS 159 and I can pop that thing surprisingly easily when..... my technique is right. If I ride my YES camrock board when it snows and then I go back to camber I catch myself trying to ollie on the cambered deck all wrong. Trying to "load up" the tail to jump off of it is the wrong way to look at camber. You have to move your weight forward and then violently drive your back foot under your body. That fast crisp side slip under your center of mass will snap the crap out of your tail and you have to be ready to get up with it and finish the ollie right. What often confuses people is this idea that you can load or stand on the tail and then jump off of it. It has to be much crisper and light of foot with camber a little like a skateboard.
Check this for cambered : (ignore how long he stands on the tail)
As a side note super wide stances make this more difficult.
|01-28-2014 11:18 PM|
Originally Posted by Littlebigdreams View Post
I'm going to try widening the stance a little (i ride slightly narrower on the stiff board), and then just work on the weight shifting.... the stiff board is by far more stable on landings and much better on the set up carve to pop off small lips, so it's not all loss.
|01-28-2014 12:36 PM|
Originally Posted by Jed View Post
|01-28-2014 12:35 PM|
Originally Posted by F1EA View Post
|01-28-2014 12:31 PM|
Originally Posted by Rasse View Post
|01-28-2014 08:39 AM|
Yeah, sounds like the new board is just stiffer. Fortunately it's just a matter of getting used to the stiffness. Stance width also has some effect in the ollie height for sure, but it can't be the case if you have the same binding setup.
I had just the opposite problem few seasons ago when I switched my Nitro Rook which is somewhere in the medium flex range, to a Nitro Haze which is a full noodle (probably flex 1). I was on my back all the time for loading too much weight on the tail or nose when buttering or doing ollies but yes, just takes some time to find the balance
|01-27-2014 08:19 PM|
I'm having a very similar issue... I got used to a super flexy full rocker board (Forum manual 156cm) with which I can ollie pretty high, in fact i have to actually control it on lips so as not to over-ollie. However, for pop jumps i'm super unstable and sketched out specially on the landings.
When i'm riding the stiff all mountain board (Endeavor live 159 cm R-C-R) (i'm 170 lbs) i definitely struggle for height on ollies, but it feels great to pop (which i'm still working on, but the feel is definitely much better)
I think the difference is with a soft flex board you can apply enough pressure on the tail using leg power alone, while on a stiffer board you actually need good ollie form for a decent pop (good ollie form = correctly loading the tail by shifting your center of gravity towards the rear PLUS leg strenght).
This correct shift of weight is something that needs pretty precise timing and body movement to dial in... i am still struggling with it, but i think i'd rather have stable pop than super high ollie power.....
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