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04-17-2014 10:49 AM
madmax So I really liked my Burton's with speed laces. Quick adjustment on the hill, but they gave me some hot spots on the top of my foot, would cause my toes to go numb sometimes. I could get them pretty comfortable and like the quickness of lacing.

I tried on 6 different models about a month ago, BOA and trad, and the BOA's had the same issue as speed lace within 30 seconds of having them on.

I just switched to trad on some Nike's and it's a world of difference. No hotspots, no numbness. Take maybe 10 second longer to tie. On my first day I needed zero fixing on the hill and it was the most comfortable my feet have ever been snowboarding. As the laces stretch it may be a different story.

Nike's have a little stopper on the laces between the lower and upper zones, basically takes the place of a square not. So you can do dual zone tightness. I've been converted to trad laces for good.

I'd be interested in trying Nike BOA's just to see the difference, maybe in the fall when new stuff drops. Anyway that's my 2c.
04-17-2014 12:08 AM
snowklinger
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Originally Posted by Mizu Kuma View Post
Laces = Easily Adjusted, Easily Repaired, Easily Replaced!!!!!
qft.

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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
One thing I don't understand is people always saying that traditional laces are easier to adjust in zones?!? Unless you're actually knotting at more than one place, don't your laces just slide through the eyelets and roughly even out the tightness?
Yes, and yes. I make a square knot at the top of the lower section (with the laces not very tight) because I have alot of volume in my forefoot that does not like getting squeezed. I then crank the top tightly, as well as the ankle wrap on the liner.

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I just don't see any benefit to laces other than people able to replace them with parts from walmart in a pinch.
I can't speak to every speed lace variation, but lets just say that many of them, including BOA, when they break they are a hassle, significantly so compared to trad laces. I've ridden with plenty of guys *ahem Lgorge who are like "man I have to ride with my boot all sloppy cuz my speed lace system is fucked up". So they can get it rideable, but not actually fixed. I've had BOA go ape shit on me (couldn't fix on hill myself). Since going traditional laces, I was reminded that I've been tying my shoes for over 30 years and it isn't hard, oh and after HUNDREDS of days I have yet to have a traditional lace fail. That isn't to say they won't, but if they do, instant fix, as in FULL FUNCTION.

BA swears by teh fit for BOA, so that has nothing to do with my argument, I can't speak to individual fits, just my experience with the techs.

I don't have a soap box, but returning to regular laces just makes me laugh.

Traditional laces and traditional 2 strap bindings are it for me personally.
04-16-2014 05:48 PM
poutanen One thing I don't understand is people always saying that traditional laces are easier to adjust in zones?!? Unless you're actually knotting at more than one place, don't your laces just slide through the eyelets and roughly even out the tightness?

I just don't see any benefit to laces other than people able to replace them with parts from walmart in a pinch.
04-16-2014 03:06 PM
Mig Fullbag I've been using the Burton dual zone speed lacing system since it came out and will never go back to trad laces. The ability to independently adjust, on the fly, the tighness of the lower and upper zone for the varying conditions through out the day is fantastic for me. Never tried the BOA though, and I'm curious about it.
04-16-2014 12:17 AM
Mizu Kuma Laces = Easily Adjusted, Easily Repaired, Easily Replaced!!!!!
04-15-2014 10:53 PM
Fergatron2000
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Originally Posted by Lamps View Post
burton has a two zone speed lacing system so you can have a mellow tightness on the bottom and very tight on top for example, and it's very easy to do this (this can also be done with regular laces). Also speed laces are easy to adjust on the hill, and very quick to do so.

Personally I strongly prefer the speed laces on my Ions.

It's true that they aren't as easy to replace, but I've only had to replace one once over about 5 pairs of boots. If you keep your boots a long time maybe this matters but I seem to have settled on 50 days as about the max life for boots, after which they're noticeably softer and I replace them.
Agree. The Ion dual speed laces are money. Keep your gloves on, keep your bindings on, tweak em on the chair as the day calls for it.
04-15-2014 08:46 PM
cannonsburger laces hands down more control and more reliable
04-15-2014 08:38 PM
CameronFong Iv tried all the lacing types and I still go Trad Lacing. It feels most comfortable IMO and tbh I think it looks sick
04-15-2014 07:27 PM
AntipodeanSam
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Seriously! Lazy fucks!
I have dual speed laces, easier with gloves on, can have different tightness where I like, you can buy replacements. So if its easier and just as effective then I embrace the technology
04-15-2014 06:52 PM
ThredJack
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Originally Posted by tradnwaves4snow View Post
traditional laces. can have different zones of tightness. easily replaced in events of failure.

cant honestly think of any cons unless you're so lazy the extra 20 seconds to tie the bow gets you all teary eyed.
Seriously! Lazy fucks!
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