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03-16-2014 05:29 PM
TooNice @wrathfuldeity: Going back to the previous post, do you think that I would have trouble with a waist width of 24.8cm (keeping in mind that I am a men size 6 / women size 7.5)?

What do you think is going to be more noticeable, 6mm of waist width, or the camber profile?

I am asking this because I have narrowed down to two 149 all mountain freestyle board.

The first one is a men's board. Camber/Rocker/Camber with a waist width of 24.8cm.

The second one is a women's board. Rocker/Camber/Rocker with a waist width of 24.2cm.

Though I haven't tried either board (and have no mean to try them), I am leaning towards the first one, though I am slightly worried about the waist width..
03-07-2014 10:11 AM
wrathfuldeity
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How do you find the 32 compared to the K2? Being in Japan may well limit my option (the last store to only had Nike as a two boa option for the ladies). But I may end up looking for/buying a pair of boots when I go to the US on holiday.
I've got over 7 years in 32's and only 1 day of splitboarding in k2...got the k2 cause they were way cheeeaaap and they fit.
03-07-2014 09:41 AM
TooNice How do you find the 32 compared to the K2? Being in Japan may well limit my option (the last store to only had Nike as a two boa option for the ladies). But I may end up looking for/buying a pair of boots when I go to the US on holiday.
03-07-2014 07:44 AM
wrathfuldeity Hi, also an asian with small feet and 180 lbs....men size 7 and use size 8 women's boots both 32 focus boas and k2 contours with double boas...you will want the women's boots to be the high end stiffer ones...and two of my 4 boards are high end stiffer cambered women's boards. I don't care if its women's gear as long as it works...and I wear men's hot pink pants. So one of the important numbers to pay attention to, is the waist width of the board. I'd imagine you will want it to be under 25 cm and probably closer to 24 cm will be ideal. My actual preferred waist width is 24.5-75 but my pow charlie slasher 164 board is 26 cm which is very sluggish to go from edge to edge.
03-06-2014 12:50 PM
TooNice Colourful analogy

It wasn't so much about being good, but I was pitting myself against people who joined the same program, and snowboarded as little as I have. The faster learners were linking turns by the second day, and had far more control than I had on the fifth. Even the slower learners were starting to overtake me in control after the fifth day. And they got tired far less than I did even though fitness wise, I was one of the most active of the group. No one were carving down the slopes, we are all still beginners, but I felt that I was lagging behind the group.

But tightening the boots on the 8th day really made a breakthrough. I am still a beginner and will remain to be one for many season to come *but* suddenly I felt I had control. On the 9th day, I went half a size down (smallest they had) and it got better yet but my heel were lifting a lot and I tired me out. 11th day, I changed resort and went for a really battered traditional lace boots that was another half a size down. The boots looked terrible, but it reduced (but not eliminated) the heel lift it my control was again improved and I could snowboard for hours at a time without my feet killing me.

So yeah as you said, the boots had to be tighter than what I was used to / know is good for me from my hiking experience. With hiking, I had to size up. I learned that going not half, but an entire size up was beneficial for long distance (30+ km) due to the feet swelling after about 20km, and it also provided space for layering when going to colder places. With snowboard, it's completely different, but it was something I had not realised (I've skied/ice-skated for 7 years, but it was a couple of years back so I do not really recall how tight the boots were).

At any rate, yeah, the last five days of snowboarding had been really fun and I am now ready to commit. Hence the decision to invest in boots because drn, those really make a difference!
03-05-2014 12:15 PM
poutanen
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But I was starting to get puzzled by my lack of progress (by now, I had snowboarding for 7 days since the very first time).

Last question, would you encourage taking paid lessons (group or 1-to-1)? And if so, until what stage?
If you only had sex twice a year for 3 years, you wouldn't get very good at it right!?! Don't beat yourself up on progress if you've only been out a couple days a year. If you're really interested in the sport, just get out more, that's the one SURE way to progress.

Lessons are obviously suggested. There is no point when you can stop taking lessons. I'm heading out this weekend to take a course on how to teach advanced boarders to be better...

Boots need to be sized right, and right is probably a lot tighter than you've ever felt. Imagine skating in loose skates, or skiing in loose ski boots, that's what you're trying to do if you snowboard in loose boots!

Jumping, it's up to you, but I would encourage getting a strong handle on-piste before worrying about jumping. And learning to jump on little rollers on the snow is easier than learning in the park... At least it was for me.
03-05-2014 09:18 AM
TooNice Thanks! I will take a look (at the other thread). Ah, I didn't know that US use a different system for men and women (bit odd to me but anyway). That would explain why I ended up with that 7.5 figure for 24cm (I am in Japan right now) - I must've looked at the ladies column ^^;

I plan to buy boots first, whatever fits best, and from there shop for whatever bindings works with the boots (and finally board). Are there boards from women (e.g. with slimmer profiles) or are regular boards fine with a 6M/7.5F?
03-04-2014 09:41 AM
neni
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Woes be me. Looks like I got my feet size completely wrong. I am nowhere near a 7.5 US, but a 6 US! The first online size converter I found got it all wrong. And it seems that it puts me strictly in the ladies department For the sake of a comfortable ride, I am willing swallow my pride. The good thing about being in Japan, is that I get more "Asian fit" options (for wide feet).

My concern is that there might be other things to consider when buying a ladies boots as a guy. I have very small feet, but my legs / body is otherwise quite muscular (I do a lot of hiking), and I most likely weigh more than most women with similarly sized feet. Will I need to shoot for shoes that are stiffer (assuming women's boots are rated at different standard to men's boots)?

Is there anything I need to know in regards to shopping for ladies boots, and the impact to the rest of the system (binding, boards)?

No boot specific impact on board (other than small feet=narrow board), but on the binding selection. Women's boots generally have a shorter boot leg. Men's bindings generally have higher highbacks. Thus check, that the rim of the boot is higher than the highback of the bindings you'll get. My women's boots work perfectly fine with some men's bindings, with others not.

IIRC, Wrathfuldeity wears women's boots and has written posts on the topic <go search>

BTW: be careful when searching for women's boots and using US sizes... Same numbers in US men's and US women's are different sizes your men's 6 would be a women's 7.5.
03-04-2014 08:11 AM
Tarzanman Don't listen to these guys. I don't usually do this for just anyone, but I have some left over stock of goofy-footed, orthogonally cambered snowboards. These are not factory seconds... they are unused extras manufactured for the national team left over from the 2012 Winter Olympics in Wakanda.

I only have goofy-footed boards left, so I will sell one to you for a rock bottom price!

Man you're lucky! I wish I were you and about to get such a good deal on primo equipment!
03-04-2014 07:33 AM
TooNice Woes be me. Looks like I got my feet size completely wrong. I am nowhere near a 7.5 US, but a 6 US! The first online size converter I found got it all wrong. And it seems that it puts me strictly in the ladies department For the sake of a comfortable ride, I am willing swallow my pride. The good thing about being in Japan, is that I get more "Asian fit" options (for wide feet).

My concern is that there might be other things to consider when buying a ladies boots as a guy. I have very small feet, but my legs / body is otherwise quite muscular (I do a lot of hiking), and I most likely weigh more than most women with similarly sized feet. Will I need to shoot for shoes that are stiffer (assuming women's boots are rated at different standard to men's boots)?

Is there anything I need to know in regards to shopping for ladies boots, and the impact to the rest of the system (binding, boards)?
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