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05-11-2014 12:45 PM
BurtonAvenger I've taken the Amtrak from coast to coast and while I wouldn't say it was a bad experience there's some things to be prepared for. The damn thing stops more than you would think, it gets delayed a bit more than you would think too, and pack food as they rape you in the dining cabin.

Now the good thing is the seats even in 'coach' are like sitting in a double stuffed lazy boy that's extra wide. If you get a row that's empty it's easy to sleep in them. The lounge cabin is spacious and has an observation deck with lots of windows to look at nothing, because lets face it that's the most boring part of the journey.

With going to Fraser I'm not sure if the train actually runs in there or at some point you have to get off and they bus you in. Last time I checked when I wanted to do it, they bused you.

As far as driving goes. I've done parts of that drive mainly all the states that suck and it's not bad just boring as fuck. Depending on weather and winds you can actually pick up time. I made it from Western NY to Breckenridge in 21 hours, would have been 18 but the guy I was driving with decided to go slow once we hit the mountains for fear of wildlife.

As far as WP as a mountain, fuck that place. Seriously fuck it! Town sucks, mountain sucks, and the people are weird and I don't mean in they're mountain town weird I mean in the I smoked too much meth and molested my sister kind of weird way. But that's my .02 cents.

For lodging you could stay in the base area but you will be butt raped on prices for groceries and what not. I stayed out there at a bed and breakfast just outside of town (10 minute drive) that had a free shuttle it was about 45 a night if I remember correctly. Wasn't bad, had my own room with three beds, tv with cable, and bathroom. Plus they served breakfast in the morning.

Get the Rocky Mountain Super Pass if you're going that route as mentioned it will save cash.

Powder riding it's personal preference. If you're on a short board might benefit you guys to push your stances all the way back so you have more nose than tail, or just be prepared to rag doll as you learn how to do it. The good news is the snow is light and fluffy here so getting bogged down isn't as much an issue as if the snow is heavy and wet.

If you want a second option for a trip with cheaper lodging, food, and free transport I would say look at Summit County. You have 4 mountains on a free bus so getting too and from is easier, more grocery store options, still has fast food for the kids if you need to go that route, the season passes are cheap and if you went with the Epic Local you would have 2 resorts out in the Midwest you could go to as well Season Ski Passes | Compare Lift Ticket Passes | As far as lodging there's a few b and b's that are cheap. Fireside Inn, The Bivy, or you could stay at one of the Motels/Hotels in Silverthorne/Dillon. Plus for nightlife you could take the kids to Woodward at Copper and let them bounce around on the tramps.

I know you're thinking CO another option I would toss out is Montana. Amtrak rights right into Whitefish/Big Sky area. See if there's any possibility of that as well since you have plenty of time to plan a trip accordingly.
05-11-2014 11:50 AM
killclimbz Seth lives in Summit/Eagle county but he became a bad ass by riding Crested Butte and the surrounding terrain of course.
05-10-2014 10:55 PM
MikeIn248 Hereís my outsiderís view of Crested Butte. I donít know the original posterís or his sonsí ability levels (sorry), but Iíve been to Crested Butte twice (actually itís the only place in Colorado Iíve ridden), and while I had a great time overall, it was probably not the best choice of places for me at the time, because I wasnít at the skill level to take advantage of much of what it had to offer.

My third season snowboarding I managed to score a free season pass to CB, so thatís why I ended up going there that season. I took two one-week-long trips. At the time I was, I guess, about a low intermediate. Previously I had been to Vermont numerous times and once to Tahoe and some medium-size hills in PA and NY. So it wasnít my first big trip out of the midwest by any means. The trouble for me at CB was that there didnít seem to be a steady progression of terrain to work my way up through. The greens and blues I was completely fine on. (This was after the Muellers took over, so all the blues were getting groomed. I understand that wasnít always the case.) Some easier black diamonds I was fine on too, but, more than other places Iíve been, there seemed to be a huge leap in skills required going from the easier terrain to the more difficult stuff. Iím not even talking the crazy double-black steeps and stuff the place is famous for. I even took some lessons to try to get some help, but this, I donít think, was the place for me to work out my issues.

Now, years later, with quite a bit more mileage under my belt, Iíd love to go back to CB and tackle stuff I didnít have the skills for back then. But that impression of mine remains ó that the easier to middle stuff I rode could have been anywhere and so much more was available to explore but it was completely out of my league.

This may or may not interest you, slyder, but there is a very nice hostel in CB. I stayed there on my second trip. (The first time I went with my father-in-law and we stayed at a motel.) I donít know if the hostel make sense price-wise for a group of three, but itís worth looking into. They did have a sizable communal kitchen.
05-10-2014 07:04 PM
linvillegorge Eliminating the need to have a job (wouldn't that be nice), if I could pick anywhere in CO to live, it just might be Crusty Butt. Crested Butte is fucking amazing.
05-10-2014 07:03 PM
Argo I have never riden WP but if I'm around I will give it a shot.....

Get a place with a mini kitchen and buy groceries. We also live on clif bars some weekends as they are free for us during competition week.

None of this will help slyder but..... I know seth and I work with his mom, he likes the back country there. He very rarely rides the resort area. The back country looks great, he lives at a ski/sled to house about 7 miles out of town, you can ski some great lines off his porch with skin or sled approach. He spends way more time in vail, east vail and summit than he does in CB. He also has a home in summit county.
05-10-2014 06:53 PM
killclimbz Crested Butte is a top 3 ski area in Colorado IMO. There is a reason Seth Morrison became the bad ass that he is. The area had a big hand in that. Plenty of very committing lines there. Most of which I have not done and will not do. The area is a test piece. The ski town is great. They also do not have front range lines, which Winterpark being a Front Range resort, does.

Slyder if you have a hook up there, don't overlook it. The surrounding backcountry is also amazing. Sled access or earn your turns style. CB has it in spades. The area will challenge you plenty.

The super pass deal would work good for you too. I also think you can swing a similar thing with CB. I do believe last year they got into the whole cheap pass war thing. Finally.

Anyway, it sounds like you have good options. Winterpark doesn't suck either.
05-10-2014 03:28 PM
West Baden Iron
Originally Posted by slyder View Post
Jason the light just went on I can buy 1 RMSP and then use the discounts to buy the kids their tickets, duhhhhhh.

I will still be buying the family a season passes to our local hill, that won't change. The extra weekend trips or day trips to other local resorts will be taken off the table and used for this one big trip.

Now I need to start putting dollar values into a spread sheet to tally up some estimates.
Oh ok, I misunderstood about the local hill. I would hate to give that up as it definitely helps with the progression.

As far as lodging costs, the rooms at the base are obviously the most expensive. If you could afford it, I would definitely do it because that would be awesome to be able to walk out of the room and go straight to the lift. We have a time share, so I used that to stay at the Silverado II Resort in the town of Winter Park. There are free shuttles in town to get to the resort, so if you do stay in town, getting to the resort or back to town is not an issue.
05-10-2014 03:05 PM
slyder Jason the light just went on I can buy 1 RMSP and then use the discounts to buy the kids their tickets, duhhhhhh.

I will still be buying the family a season passes to our local hill, that won't change. The extra weekend trips or day trips to other local resorts will be taken off the table and used for this one big trip.

Now I need to start putting dollar values into a spread sheet to tally up some estimates.
05-10-2014 02:54 PM
West Baden Iron I guess they changed it a little for next season.

You would get 20 tickets total (10 for each resort) that you can print out and give to whomever you like. You don't have to print out, you can just show your pass to the ticket window and you will receive the discount for the person getting the ticket. The tickets will cost $59 per person per day before 12/20 and $69 after 12/20. This season is was $59 all season long, so they upped it a little for peak times I guess.

I believe face value tickets bought at the window were $99 weekdays and $109 on the weekend (I could be wrong, I didn't buy any that way). So even if it was only weekday rates, you would still save quite a bit. If it we me, I would buy the pass and then have 10 passes for your 2 kids. You would save $300 in face value just for your kids for 5 days per kid (depending on ticket prices next season).

Last season was 50% off rental and 2 people in my party were renting, so that a bonus for me as well for buying the season pass. I ended up buying my kids season passes as well, but I really didn't save much money there because they only rode 4 days each.

Also, if I could only go out west for a week, or ride my home resort all season, I would pick out west. Before I went, I wouldn't have thought that would be the case. I had that much fun that a week out there beat 3 months of Indiana riding.

At some point, they sent me a 40% off the Freestyle lesson and that is when I booked it. Well worth the money in my opinion. Cro was so fun to be around and watch ride. Corrected some bad habits and helped with a few new tricks as well.

05-10-2014 02:34 PM
slyder Thanks for the input from a fellow Midwesterner you can totally relate to what I ride

I will consider the Super Pass but I know for fact this will be my only trip of the year. This would take away any local trips as well. I need all my funding to pull this off.

Meeting up with Cro for a lesson for all 3 of us would be a dream. Meeting and riding with any member of the forum that lives out there would be great as well !!

Everyone is giving me great information !!

Note: Here is what I found on the Rocky Mountain Super Pass
2014/15 Rocky Mountain Super Pass™
•Unlimited skiing and riding at Winter Park Resort and Copper Mountain
•50% off walk-in rate at the Coca-Colaģ Tube Hill at Winter Park Resort. Based on availability
•20 Friends & Family tickets. 10 for Winter Park and 10 for Copper. $59/day (open - 12/19) and $69 (12/20 - close). Valid for teen, adult, and 70 + season passes
•*Free one-year subscription to SKI magazine Click Here
•10% off full day group lessons at WPR
•40% discount on walk-in rates of ski or snowboard rental equipment (excluding lesson packages) for pass holder and up to 2 friends & family at Winter Park Resort
•10% off retail purchases at West Portal Outfitters, Columbia, Showcase Snowboards, and The Jane Shop at Winter Park Resort
•Free summer scenic chairlift rides at Copper Mtn.
•20% off Woodward at Copper Freestyle Lessons, Intro Sessions, Drop In Sessions and Skate/Bike Sessions

question on the 3rd point, does this mean I get 20 tickets to give to someone??? It lists pricing does that mean what each ticket is worth and what I would be saving per ticket OR I can buy that ticket for $50/day a little confusing
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