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10-25-2014 10:23 AM
SAVETHISNOOB
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Originally Posted by 2hellnbak View Post
I LOVED my ions. The pair of Rulers I bought weren't very hardy. First day trying them on I broke the speedlace system. Now I have a really old pair of the Driver X (when they were lace boots and had the flip out cleats on the bottom for hiking). I love these boots almost as much as my old ions but they are sadly starting to fall apart after a good 300 or so days on them.

Next I'll be going Driver X or Ion again. I'm not really a big Burton fan but their boots fit my feet better than any other boot I've tried so that's what I buy.
Guessing you're pretty freeride orientated?
10-24-2014 09:02 PM
2hellnbak I LOVED my ions. The pair of Rulers I bought weren't very hardy. First day trying them on I broke the speedlace system. Now I have a really old pair of the Driver X (when they were lace boots and had the flip out cleats on the bottom for hiking). I love these boots almost as much as my old ions but they are sadly starting to fall apart after a good 300 or so days on them.

Next I'll be going Driver X or Ion again. I'm not really a big Burton fan but their boots fit my feet better than any other boot I've tried so that's what I buy.
10-09-2014 07:56 PM
jdang
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Originally Posted by aiidoneus View Post
I normally wear superfeet insoles. On the Ruler I can't. It is narrower but only on the outside. So with superfeet my pinky toe is squished, but my big toe is comfortable. I don't have this issue with the Ion or Imperial. If I use the stock Burton insole it is fine, but just.
So I tried the ruler... felt slightly narrower but a whole lot softer. Read reviews that stated they are really stiff out of the box but I honestly didn't think they felt stiff at all.

I'm ordering the tm-two and the ion to try on... but don't think I should get the ion which is a shame cos they fit so nice. Just probs too stiff for all mountain (park inc).

Failing that it's northwaves for me
10-08-2014 07:36 PM
aiidoneus I normally wear superfeet insoles. On the Ruler I can't. It is narrower but only on the outside. So with superfeet my pinky toe is squished, but my big toe is comfortable. I don't have this issue with the Ion or Imperial. If I use the stock Burton insole it is fine, but just.
10-08-2014 07:32 PM
jdang
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Originally Posted by aiidoneus View Post
I find the ruler does have a slightly different fit from my other boots. Which is why I think they do a wide foot version now. Based on my foot type, the ruler toe box is a bit tighter than the imperial and ion.

In terms of durability type of quality. The Ruler can take a beating. I am on my second pair and the first are still definitely ridable after 150 days. I just like to replace my boots every one or two seasons.

Features is a tricky metric. For some people they notice them and enjoy them. For me, I notice a boots stiffness and how it flexes. But I really don't notice a big difference with 'level 1 eva foot bed' vs 'level 2 ..' or those types of features. So if you are someone who does, it may matter to you more.
Different as in narrower?
Wish I could just try them on but realistically i'm going to have to guess sizes and order... then send back and swap sizes etc.
Don't want to order the wide unless it's likely i'll need it.

True. I probably should think less about those things. Wish I could try an ion on one foot and a ruler on the other... then the tm-two. Goddam countryside
10-08-2014 05:38 PM
aiidoneus
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Originally Posted by jdang View Post
Whats the fit of the ruler like compared to the ion? I heard it's narrower but unfortunately my local(ish) store doesn't stock them.

I'm looking for the flex level of the ruler really but it's just that the ruler looks like a big step down in quality and features from the ion. Looks and is much cheaper. Also things like the liner just aren't as good.

Am tempted to order the ruler, ion and tm-two and send 2 back...
I find the ruler does have a slightly different fit from my other boots. Which is why I think they do a wide foot version now. Based on my foot type, the ruler toe box is a bit tighter than the imperial and ion.

In terms of durability type of quality. The Ruler can take a beating. I am on my second pair and the first are still definitely ridable after 150 days. I just like to replace my boots every one or two seasons.

Features is a tricky metric. For some people they notice them and enjoy them. For me, I notice a boots stiffness and how it flexes. But I really don't notice a big difference with 'level 1 eva foot bed' vs 'level 2 ..' or those types of features. So if you are someone who does, it may matter to you more.
10-08-2014 03:24 PM
jdang
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Originally Posted by aiidoneus View Post
Owning two pairs of rulers, Imperials, and Ion's. It is really a preference thing. I find the Rulers are the better all around boot for resort riding. They may feel fairly stiff for the first 10 days, but will soften up a fair amount (most boots will). This is nice for freestyle, but you can lay down great carves if your technique is decent.

I use my Imperials for backcountry. I prefer the stiffer boot for splitboarding and it is a better combo with my stiff karakoram bindings.

I actually never wear my Ion's anymore. I bought them more for hard carving groomers .. but I really don't need or like a stiffer boot.

Never ridden the Ambush, but considering it is a bit more flexible then a Ruler. I would assume it would soften up too much. You could ride it of course, but probably be pretty mushy after 40-50 days of use for bigger mountain riding.
Whats the fit of the ruler like compared to the ion? I heard it's narrower but unfortunately my local(ish) store doesn't stock them.

I'm looking for the flex level of the ruler really but it's just that the ruler looks like a big step down in quality and features from the ion. Looks and is much cheaper. Also things like the liner just aren't as good.

Am tempted to order the ruler, ion and tm-two and send 2 back...
10-08-2014 12:23 PM
aiidoneus Owning two pairs of rulers, Imperials, and Ion's. It is really a preference thing. I find the Rulers are the better all around boot for resort riding. They may feel fairly stiff for the first 10 days, but will soften up a fair amount (most boots will). This is nice for freestyle, but you can lay down great carves if your technique is decent.

I use my Imperials for backcountry. I prefer the stiffer boot for splitboarding and it is a better combo with my stiff karakoram bindings.

I actually never wear my Ion's anymore. I bought them more for hard carving groomers .. but I really don't need or like a stiffer boot.

Never ridden the Ambush, but considering it is a bit more flexible then a Ruler. I would assume it would soften up too much. You could ride it of course, but probably be pretty mushy after 40-50 days of use for bigger mountain riding.
10-08-2014 11:00 AM
SnowDogWax
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Originally Posted by Tranceaddict View Post
Last years model could be bought for $300-$350, 2015 they are around $450. For the 2012 I paid $260.
Thanks: $260 great deal...enjoy
10-08-2014 04:23 AM
Tranceaddict Last years model could be bought for $300-$350, 2015 they are around $450. For the 2012 I paid $260.
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