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11-06-2015 10:49 AM
Brewtown
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Originally Posted by kollering View Post
Just saved me from buying the Large Cartels Re: Flex. I have a NS Proto HDX 160 and my size 13 Flow Helios probably won't center well with the Cartels lack of port/starboard adjustability.

Research like this is paramount for someone who buys all their gear online.

Props to all those that posted.
Honestly I think you would be OK with size 13s. The issue is generally with 'in between' boot sizes. My size 11 32s were just a bit too snug for mediums and hung heel heavy on the larges even when set forward. Unless Flows have a massive footprint they should work just fine. There are enough other options that it's just not worth the headache for me, but the cartels are an awesome binding if they fit.
11-06-2015 10:44 AM
F1EA
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Originally Posted by kollering View Post
Just saved me from buying the Large Cartels Re: Flex. I have a NS Proto HDX 160 and my size 13 Flow Helios probably won't center well with the Cartels lack of port/starboard adjustability.

Research like this is paramount for someone who buys all their gear online.

Props to all those that posted.
Size 13 should center with L.

Problem is with smaller size 10.5 and 11.
11-06-2015 09:31 AM
kollering
This year old thread....

Just saved me from buying the Large Cartels Re: Flex. I have a NS Proto HDX 160 and my size 13 Flow Helios probably won't center well with the Cartels lack of port/starboard adjustability.

Research like this is paramount for someone who buys all their gear online.

Props to all those that posted.
09-30-2014 11:34 AM
Beeb US11 Burton Imperials, Large Cartels and an NS Proto CT 157. That's as far forward as I can get them. I'm right on the edge of needing a wide board anyway so bindings that don't center make me a sad panda. It's not the worst overhang in the world, but I think my old haggard Union Contacts may go back on it which is a shame.





Out of interest has anyone that had this issue resolved it with alternative disks? I don't care much about losing the re-flex bend, centred bindings would be better!
09-30-2014 10:50 AM
F1EA
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Originally Posted by Brewtown View Post
My experience is with the '13 and '14 Cartels. Can't say for sure that missions have the same size footbed and heel loop, but if they do you will definitely have to set them forward and depending on the board still might run heel heavy.

I currently have 6 boards with waist widths ranging from 25.0 to 26.4 and the only board I can get my 11.5 Lashed perfectly centered on is my Process. Some of the other mid wides are pretty close but it's frustrating. The Vitas and Cartels are two of my favorite bindings but going forward I don't think I would buy B bindings unless its for a B board.
Yup. Same here... with sz 11 it's frustrating. I can only center on 1 out of 3 boards. I really wanted the Genesis, but only if i get an EST board, which i doubt.
09-30-2014 10:19 AM
Brewtown
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Originally Posted by spino View Post
i have medium missions (i think the same applies with the cartels) with a 10 northwave boot.
i can center the boot OK if i set the binding as far back as possible (i.e. using the first hole).

my only problem is that the ratchets are a tad too short.

i was debating changing them with an L (mostly so i could use the outer holes to fine tune my stance) but apparently it would be useless as i would probably end up mounting the bindings all the way forward?
My experience is with the '13 and '14 Cartels. Can't say for sure that missions have the same size footbed and heel loop, but if they do you will definitely have to set them forward and depending on the board still might run heel heavy.

I currently have 6 boards with waist widths ranging from 25.0 to 26.4 and the only board I can get my 11.5 Lashed perfectly centered on is my Process. Some of the other mid wides are pretty close but it's frustrating. The Vitas and Cartels are two of my favorite bindings but going forward I don't think I would buy B bindings unless its for a B board.
09-30-2014 09:48 AM
spino
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Originally Posted by Brewtown View Post
Yeah that really surprised me as well. I wore a bulkier size 12 last year but when I switched to an 11.5 lashed this year I'm no longer able to get centered on all my boards.

Anyone have any experience with medium cartels with a larger boot size?
i have medium missions (i think the same applies with the cartels) with a 10 northwave boot.
i can center the boot OK if i set the binding as far back as possible (i.e. using the first hole).

my only problem is that the ratchets are a tad too short.

i was debating changing them with an L (mostly so i could use the outer holes to fine tune my stance) but apparently it would be useless as i would probably end up mounting the bindings all the way forward?
09-17-2014 10:36 AM
David Giles I posted this in another thread, but thought I'd post it here as well, just as another data point.

I just recently bought a new set of medium Cartel Reflex bindings to go with my size 9.5 Salomon Savage BOA boots, and the fit is close to perfect, although the heel of the boots are a VERY tight fit in the bindings. I LIKE the tight fit because it doesn't give the heel ANY room to wiggle around, but I can't imagine fitting a Salomon Savage boot any larger than mine in the medium Cartels.





09-14-2014 11:44 AM
chomps1211
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Originally Posted by F1EA View Post
Yep. Good thread.

Like Chomps said, i find it also depends on the board (waist and sidecut)...

...Not a problem with EST. I tried L Genesis on a 158 cm Custom and was perfect.

…which is frustrating as hell if you are a fan of Cartel bindings, but don't ride Burton boards!!!

If you buy from somewhere where you can't return them, you have to cart your board & boots around to the stores to check and see which size will work. What if you're one of those guys who has a couple boards, and just switches one pair of bindings between them? Check 'em all, or risk not centering right with one or more of your boards?

Not sure why Burton would want to go with fewer adjustment/positioning options with their Non EST bindings? But I can say it will certainly affect which binders I consider next time I'm in the market!

(…I get it that in order to make the binding mounts flex, as in Re-flex! They had to eliminate material in the mount! Thus, fewer screw mount holes and less positioning adjustability!)
09-14-2014 11:10 AM
F1EA Yep. Good thread.

Like Chomps said, i find it also depends on the board (waist and sidecut).

I wear sz 11 32 boots and it's hit and miss with the Burton L bindings with Reflex disc: perfect center on a 161 cm Charlie Slasher, too much heel hang on 159 Endeavor Live.

Not a problem with EST. I tried L Genesis on a 158 cm Custom and was perfect.
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