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12-07-2010 03:29 PM
Puggy Up here in Canada, $25.00 for sure for a wax, metal scrappers are good to use you just need to be careful of the base. Additionally metal scrappers are key to scrapping p-tex repairs... The household iron will work, just don't plan on using it for clothing afterwards, and be sure to turn steam off and find the right "fabric temperature" so you don't go burning the bases. Check out youtube they have some killer waxing and repair videos.
12-07-2010 02:34 PM
JeffreyCH Thanks a bunch for all the tips guys. I've ordered some all temp wax, and an edge tuner so I can do my own board. Kind of hate to use my own (only) deck as a guinea pig but what choice do I have if I want a fresh tune and wax.

As far as scrappers go can I use a metal one? I have plenty of drywall taping knives around, sizes ranging from 4" to 10".

I've got a household iron that I used maybe 2 times since I bought it 10 years ago. Is there really that much of a difference between a "real" wax iron and a household one?

What kind of prices do your local shops charge for a tune and wax? I think I paid around 30 to have mine done by the hippie dude in Downtown Breck last year, but wasn't scrapped (spring storage wax). Is there a difference in price if you want it done right away vs. drop off and pick up next day?
12-07-2010 10:16 AM
Puggy For the first 2 weeks you should have a dirty grand opening sale like free tune with wax or something like that!! Get a good clientelle... then they'll do the advertising for you! Word of mouth is the most powerful kind of advertising. You should start off with doing your waxes by hand, I think people would appreciate the "authenticity" of the craftsmanship... Start your first few weeks by being there all the time and talking to everyone, and get some local shredders hired who can do a nice base job, students always love part-time seasonal jobs!
Offer different kinds/quality/speed/temperature!!! If there wasn't so many shops in my town I'd deffinately open one I think it's a great idea!!! Keep good track of your productivity per man hour to keep your labour at a reasonable cost!!! Good luck sir!
12-07-2010 08:25 AM
wrathfuldeity idk but I'd think a big panel belt sander for base grinds, like they use in a cabinet shop would work. But base grinds are rarely required. Alot of shops around here do mtn bike, bmx and skate or some other sporty outdoor business off season.
12-07-2010 01:03 AM
mtmgiants Tognar ski tuning tools, ski wax and waxing tools, snowboard wax, and Ski repair, waxing, and tuning advice

Boom thats all the basic equipment youll need for really cheap. Best website ever
12-07-2010 12:28 AM
JeffreyCH Well, I am still kicking this idea around. I spotted a great location over the weekend, right on the main road going to the hill. Nice store front facing the road, visible glass front, and good signage. The guy called me back today, 350 a month, not to bad. My main problem is what to do with it over the 7-9 month off season?? Maybe get into the retail side, buy and sell used gear?

I'm gonna do some more snooping around at the hill, and actually pay attention to what people are skiing/riding. Ask some questions from the people I chat with during the day. As far as I can tell there is no place any where around here that tunes and waxes (imagine that it's the middle of fucking no where )

I can start with basic tools and equipment for around 1200-1500 or less depending on what kind of advertising I do. I would be stuck with a 6 month lease though. That would total 2100 so my 4k budget would cover it. I'm going to keep looking into this, any more tips or advice would be great. Thanks
12-03-2010 05:23 PM
oneshot anyone can tune a boards edges with one of these.. Amazon.com: DAKINE Edge Tuner Tool: Sports & Outdoors

i had a similar one for yrs after i stopped using a flat file. FAST, EASY, Accurate.
this shit aint rocket science..

get a feel for what the person likes to ride and then tune.. chances are u got a bunch of rail riding kids in your area. in that case ride there board towed behind a car down the asphalt for a couple minutes and it should be set for rail riding.. haha
12-03-2010 05:15 PM
oneshot a base grinder is not needed to do basic repairs and tuning.. not at all..
if you have never used ptex and done base repairs theres a little bit of a learning curve but u being a guy of construction type skills i'm sure it would be a walk in the park to learn.. shit. light ptex, twist and drip u just want a clear ptex bas qwith out the black burnt material in it

a wax machine would be rad..

i know nothing of prices and brands.. i worked in a shop that had it all and i got a buddy now who makes custom snowboards and has a "Grindrite" base grinder in his garage.. i dont even go that far. i wax, no scrape and go, when the board breaks i throw it in a pile, grab another one and repeat.. some people care alot about there board and think the better its always tuned the better they will ride.. for your sake Jeffrey, hope all the kids in your area think opposite of me
12-03-2010 05:12 PM
BurtonAvenger You do realize to get the machinery you're looking at some real cash. Honestly man hand filing a customers edge is more of a pain then doing it on a machine plus you really need to have an eye for detail. Most every shop uses wintersteiger or grindrite it's the same company, Montana is independent.
12-03-2010 05:02 PM
JeffreyCH I think I would have decent volume, Omaha is about 10-15 mins away. I noticed last year that hardly anyone was on rental equipment. I'm thinking more towards just offering basic services and see how it goes. Any links to base grind equipment(suppliers/ manufactures) , google search was kind of worthless. Would I really need one to offer basic repairs and waxes? How expensive is expensive(ballpark)? I have about 4g play money for the winter, so that would be my start up budget. I did email a wax machine manufacturer to get a price list. Any recommendations on brands, certain machines, features to look for? Know any place to buy used stuff like this?
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