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12-14-2010 08:17 PM
extra0 mark landvick rides his actual pro model...but these uber-riders are so experienced, they could shred on anything
12-14-2010 08:12 PM
BurtonAvenger
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Originally Posted by phile00 View Post
Business and tech aside, when you're out riding and you want to do a little bit of everything, what do you like to ride?
Whatever my bindings are on at the time. Rider>board. I've jibbed my 67 swallow tail and hit jumps, I also rode 30 inches of pow on a 154 jibstick.
12-14-2010 07:18 PM
phile00
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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger View Post
Riders ride what they like when I'm out riding with them we don't talk tech we're more concerned with who can spray who or push the other person over. I try and check business at the chairlift and ride for myself.
Business and tech aside, when you're out riding and you want to do a little bit of everything, what do you like to ride?

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I think it's pretty dumb that companies are trying to make their alt camber boards feel more like camber...when they can just offer camber.
Well their overall goal there is to make a design that's "catch free" but still has pop. I'm with you though, I want to try the flat and camrock type stuff this year just to see what it's like, since I've pretty much tried the other designs.
12-14-2010 07:11 PM
Extremo
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Just curious, how many alt camber boards have you tried. Which ones?
Bataleon Evil Twin with TBT, Nitro T0 with raised edges (I don't even know if they had a name for it), Omatic celbrity BS tech.

The only alt camber boards I've ridden were the skate banana, park pickle, and a capita horrorscope.

I'm eager to check out something like the flat kick that's reinforced with some carbon stringers and I'd like to try a camrock design. But honestly I'm pretty happy with reg camber...does everything I need it too. I think it's pretty dumb that companies are trying to make their alt camber boards feel more like camber...when they can just offer camber.
12-14-2010 06:45 PM
BurtonAvenger Eh I should have said that they "claimed" they rushed it into production.

Everyone forgets that a catalog released for SIA doesn't necessarily mean that is what the final production product is going to be. Look at the K2 Believer for I think it was last year they switched it up right before mass production to what they were going to release for the next season. Hell the Forum Holy Moly got tweaked after the samples were released from 3mm's of rise under foot to 1mm. Big companies work 2 sometimes 3 years out, hell my buddy Chris is doing the 2013 Burton/Forum graphics right now.

I haven't bothered to care about anyones 2012 stuff because until SIA most people will just be oogling screen shots from the Dewsh Tour and Gran Prix trying to figure out who is riding what. Fuck I saw Louie Vito today on the bus he wasn't riding his Celebrity Pro Model it was something I haven't seen before not even sure if it was an Omatic.

Riders ride what they like when I'm out riding with them we don't talk tech we're more concerned with who can spray who or push the other person over. I try and check business at the chairlift and ride for myself.
12-14-2010 03:46 PM
phile00
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I'm friends with a bunch of the team guys and know the designers most everything that's in production now was created 2 years ago. They just rushed it because they felt the team could market it more.
Interesting. So do you feel like their current base designs are not good? Also, what do the team guys tell you they actually like to ride?

Do you think their 2012 stuff actually going to be innovative? Their designs are similar to k2, and having read all this, I feel like k2 probably has a better grasp on the flat/slight camber/rockered nose and tail tech. If you've ridden the boards, what's your take?
12-14-2010 02:12 PM
JoeR
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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger View Post
I'm friends with a bunch of the team guys and know the designers most everything that's in production now was created 2 years ago. They just rushed it because they felt the team could market it more.
OK, so you agree they rushed it into production. Fine.

As for the marketing, from a customer's point of view, it looks rather muddled. 2010-11 is the very first season for regular ProRize, yet it was in the process of being replaced in the same season even before the boards hit the slopes (at least in North America). Very odd, and not really confidence-inspiring. I like my DH2.4 and think it probably represents Ride's best technology going forward, but how they got to this point is not exactly a model of R&D. E.g., the 2010-11 Ride hardgoods catalog, released in the spring of 2010, describes the OMG as a regular ProRize board. When the OMG actually appeared in the summer/fall of 2010, it already had been changed to Hybrid ProRize. The ProRize OMG had a product lifespan of 0 years in North America!
12-14-2010 01:50 PM
little devil
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Originally Posted by Extremo View Post
When you only have money for one board it's a big deal...you don't want to get a piece of shit. And personally of the alt base boards I've tried I would put them in the shit category.
Just curious, how many alt camber boards have you tried. Which ones?
12-14-2010 01:44 PM
BurtonAvenger
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What I think is based on what Ride has said in discussions about this topic, e.g.: "The team picked it almost unanimously as the best this summer testing at Hood and the testing was so late we were only able to get put [sic] Hybrid ProRize on 3 models, the OMG, DH2.4, and DH2.5."
I'm friends with a bunch of the team guys and know the designers most everything that's in production now was created 2 years ago. They just rushed it because they felt the team could market it more.
12-14-2010 01:05 PM
lisevolution I just got my first day on my NS Legacy this past weekend and I'd say after the first 2 runs of adjusting to the alt camber from Rome Flag I was riding the thing exactly the same way I ride my flag...fast and aggressive. I actually felt more comfortable on edge with NS because of their sidecut and how well it holds an edge versus the Flag which sucks on ice eventhough it's a VT company who designed it. There is definitely more chatter in the Legacy than in the Flag but I expected that because I know the Legacy is both softer and has a shorter effective edge because of the Alt camber. The rocker also had a tendency to wander a bit when flat basing on a cat track but again I expected that because of the alt camber under foot. all it took was the slightest amount of being on edge to be just as stable on a cat track. After the first run of the day I was questioning whether I made the right decision, by the 4th I wasn't even thinking about it.
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