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|10-24-2011 07:16 PM|
Originally Posted by Karasene View Post
I know this is off-topic, but thanks for the "9 days on snow" middle finger, Karasene!
|10-24-2011 04:43 PM|
|Karasene||Wow.. I think that's the mellowest post I've ever seen BA write. Is he feeling ok?|
|10-22-2011 09:10 PM|
Originally Posted by Karasene View Post
Originally Posted by vwbrian View Post
Gotta agree with Squeak on points he's making.
FYI all you price hating fear mongers no one is saying buy a Method or Vapor. I'd be content riding a Sherlock, Hero, and Joystick from them which is comparable in price to other brands boards in the same categories. Maybe you should realize they have one of the most diverse lines in snowboarding.
And this is coming from a guy that is definitely not pro Burton by any means.
|10-21-2011 10:56 PM|
Originally Posted by HoboMaster View Post
Last time I checked, every snowboarder makes a choice as to what to spend their money on, some make informed choices, some don't. Get opinions, read reviews, demo it yourself, talk to experts, and then for your own opinions. As it has been mentioned on here, there are plenty of stories of every brand's stuff breaking and failing.
And plenty of small companies have made it; Never Summer, Union, all Mervin brands, etc.
|10-21-2011 03:55 PM|
Originally Posted by jgsqueak View Post
Yes I know blah blah blah we use our consumer dollars to support big business and make it thrive, hence the reason it exists. Doesn't change the fact that big businesses make small businesses suffer.
|10-21-2011 03:43 PM|
I just read through all of this and it was quite entertaining. I like how people throw the words "fact" and "cheap" and "over-priced" around.
Some one said something about it being a "fact" that 80% of Burton sales are not snow related. I find that to be a staggering statistic since I work for one the largest Burton accounts and the only thing Burton we sell that is not snow related is is rolling luggage a few non-technical back packs; those sales are less than 5% of what we sell. So if a top 10 account sells 95% snow related product, I find it hard to believe that all of the other Burton accounts sell waaaaay more $50 backpacks (Oh yeah, and look at every other snowboard brand, they sell t-shirts, hats, etc. too)
Someone else talked about "swallowing up smaller brands." Usually the small company getting bought up is about to go out of business. So would you rather see Forum, Blend, and Foursquare go away forever (because Mervin, NS, and Rome would be able to afford to absorb a brand's debt). Acquisitions happen. If they don't, we lose brands...try getting a warranty board from Omatic this year...
They only thing Burton that use/own are my Gore Mitts, but I don't bash the brand. Do they have stuff that works for me (boards, bindings, boots, etc.)? Yes. Do I use them? No (well only when testing next year's product). It comes down to people just wanting to hate on the "big player." I work for a pretty large retailer and I here the hate all of the time. The funny thing is that the people that bash the snowboard selection we have (because I buy for our stores) have a lot less knowledge about snowboards and spend a lot less time on EVERY board out there than I do. It is time to realize that this world is slightly bigger than your needs/desires/image/etc.
|10-21-2011 03:33 PM|
Originally Posted by hanzosteel View Post
|10-21-2011 02:55 PM|
|hanzosteel||my two cents... snowboarding was, and still is to a large degree, counter-culture. burton has evolved into a savvy business and achieved market dominance and that makes them mainstream. this clashes with the sentiments of counter-culture thereby making it cool to hate on them. it's the same thing need to rebel, to be different, to stand-out from the norm that characterizes all counter-culture genres. but, ironically, a lot of the haters are just being the sheep that they try not to be by jumping on the bandwagon and hating on the thing that everyone else is hating with little justification. comparing products in burton's line-up to other company's products in the same price point, their prices are not outrageous. comparing failure rates based on volume of sales, i'd bet their quality is on par with every other major player. it's become the social norm to support the underdogs and people think they sound more cool when they profess to support a more obscure brand than their friends.|
|10-21-2011 02:36 PM|
Didn't burton take credit for inventing the snowboard or something like that?
In the article it said
"Carpenter started the company in Londonderry after seeing someone riding a homemade board."
I have never liked Burton products.
Don't like the weird hole pattern forcing you to use their bindings
And forcing binding Manufactures to produce 2 sets of discs so they could mount to burton.
Now they have the sliding thing. I thinking 4 bolts to hold me to the board is stronger but not sure.
Buying up good small companies. So now I won't buy anything under the burton Umbrella.
I broke my ankle using the Freestyle boot that was total garbage and Had I had on a good stiff boot I would have been able to ride the rest of the season.
Also The gloves I bought were complete garbage they were no where near waterproof hands were wet within the first hour of riding
No board they make that I could ride will be made in the USA. Not that they made very many in the US anyway.
They have been outsourcing their boards for over 25 years.
Jake tried to patent snowboard and sent bills to other snowboard Manufactures.
They sponsered John Johnson, they must have paid him a Sh!t ton of cash.d
Edit Guess john jackson was already on burton sub company Forum. Wonder if he will be in T rices next movie?
What I did like about them Terje, and they kept Craig Kelly Sponsered, Not sure where the rest of the team riders went.
|10-21-2011 02:05 PM|
I think I'm going to be wearing burton helmet, gloves, shirts, pants, boots, bindings, board, and most importantly a Burton RESTRICTED THONG! this season...because I now know that I'm going against the grain just like everyone else with buying their lib techs and NS...Long Live BURTON!!
(P.S. I did just purchase a NS SL...F*ing haters really got to me )
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