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05-08-2012 05:28 PM
extra0 I'm 6"1" / 175 lbs and wear a size a 11 tennis shoe (10.5 snowboard boot), so I'm actually close to your size.

The 160W Goliath has a massive 265 mm waist width, so that's one I'd eliminate (leave that one to the size 14s). I might base the other 2 choices on whether I thought I was going to be riding more on groomers/light powder or more in deeper powder/trees - the 158 cm for groomers and the 161 for powder.
05-08-2012 04:47 PM
cjdarling19 What size would you recommend for the Goliath? I was thinking either a 158, 160W, or a 161, but I'm not sure which of the three would fit me best. Once again, my shoe size is a 12 and I measured my foot at 27.5 cm.
05-06-2012 11:05 AM
yuhaoyang Maybe I'm biased lol. Re: durability, I've been on it for maybe 10 days this season, for 9 of those it was fine. But on one of those days, looking at the base at the end of the day was a nasty shock (mostly damaged edges though) . But I should rephrase. I'm slightly concerned about it, but do not have enough experience on it to make a call. It is just a regular 4400 sintered with some thinner edges.
I still think it's a crutch because most boards out there don't have tbt. None have 0 or reverse sidecut though except for the banana hammock and some voile splits.
05-05-2012 10:43 PM
extra0 you already know you like TBT, so yeah, bataleon. People who say it's a crutch should all go back to the 80's boards with no sidecut.

as far as getting a wide, I doubt you'll need it. I wear a 10.5 boot on a 250mm waist width Evil Twin - no problem.

the sintered bases on bataleons are the same as most other brands. I rode my undisputed for 4 seasons (95% glades) before getting even one core shot (this past dry/rocky season was a killer though).
05-04-2012 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by cjdarling19 View Post
When I went to Tahoe this past Christmas, I rode a Bataleon Whatever as my rental board and I really liked it. I had a hard time going straight at times, but I never caught an edge which was great.
Originally Posted by DrnknZag View Post
As a first board, I wouldn't consider a Batalion unless you've ridden one before and like TBT.

Get the bataleon, especially as an intermediate park rider. You'll be much happier not catching edges on rails(unless you really F'up) and TBT is very forgiving on rutted up takeoffs and landings. Once you get better you might want something with more edge grip if you really want to bomb down some icy mountains, but the bataleon can handle anything else. After a couple days you won't have any problems flat basing and going straight and it will probably feel better than a "normal" board.

I've ridden over plenty of small rocks and branches, nothing but tiny scratches on the bases of my bataleons.
05-02-2012 05:57 PM
yuhaoyang Everyone has their opinions, with a few caveats I definitely would recommend the goliath as a beginner board, it's pretty flexible, impossible to catch an edge, has great pop, can carve better than a full rocker and float netter than camber. It's a very good medium. Caveats are that you might use the no edge catching of tbt as a crutch, the rock resistance of base and edges are questionable, and you have to keep it waxed all the time. Ride manic is a directional rocker with even softer biax construction, which I don't get... Unless you want a pow stick I don't get that match of materials and design
05-02-2012 10:27 AM
DrnknZag As a first board, I wouldn't consider a Batalion unless you've ridden one before and like TBT.
04-29-2012 03:06 AM
cjcameron11 +1 for the riders choice, great edge hold, twin, nice true flex and fast base. I love mine!
04-29-2012 01:50 AM
scotty100 Never Summer make great boards but given your original post stating your experience and what you want to do riding-wise I don't think the legacy should be your first NS choice. By all means buy a NS board but perhaps the Evo or Proto would be better fit. Also, some think they are not the first board choice of a beginner. The riders choice is a good board too by all accounts. But remember the rocker profile is completely different from say the Goliath, one of your earlier choices. I'd seriously think about which type of camber you think would suit you best before you go hunting for the end-of-season deals. My rec. remains the Ride Machete or perhaps even the Arbor Westmark or Blacklist.
04-28-2012 03:12 PM
cjdarling19 Ok, thank you guys so much for the input. I've discarded the Manic like you guys suggested. However, since I made this post, I've been looking at more and more boards online and I've found some very good deals. Namely, for around the same price as a Goliath 160W, I found a 2012 GNU Riders Choice C2X 158W or 162W for $323. I've done lots of research about the board and read tons of reviews on it and it seems like a really solid all-around board. I want to invest in a good board that will last me a while and one that I won't have to replace as I move from an intermediate to a more advanced rider in the next few years. In addition, I found a 2012 Never Summer Legacy 156 or 161 (unfortunately no 159) for $349. That is just a little more than I want to spend, but I'm still highly considering it since I'll more than likely have this board for quite a while (~5 to 6 years). Do you guys feel like those boards would suit me well and which of the two would you recommend?
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