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10-31-2012 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by Snowolf View Post
While good practice in general, it us especially important for the PNW riders to pay very close attention to the dramatically changing weather conditions. A Forest Service road up here that you use to access back country snow can become impassible even with the best 4x4 in a matter of hours as a result of our severe fall storms. If you are back on these roads, carry a chain saw and plenty of fuel. Fallen trees from these intense winds often block these roads then heavy snow can follow.

I had to cut 3 fallen lodgepoles from the road to Mt. Adams this summer after a wind storm!
ya don't want to be in the trees when the wind blows....which reminds me...Huddie

Black girl, black Girl, dont lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night?
In the pines, In the pines, Where the sun never shine
I shivered the whole night through.

Black girl, black girl, where will you go
Im going where the cold wind blows
In the pines, In the pines, Where the sun never shine
I will shiver the whole night through.

Black girl, black Girl, dont lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night?
In the pines, In the pines, Where the sun never shine
I shivered the whole night through.

My Husband was a Railroad man
Killed a mile and a half from here
His head, was found, In a drivers wheel
And his body hasn't never been found.

Black girl, black girl, where will you go
Im going where the cold wind blows
You called me weak, and you called me the most
You called rita, bring me back home.
10-30-2012 11:32 AM
linvillegorge Yep, if you're talking 3 mile flat slogs pretty much everywhere you go, I'd definitely go the cheap sled route. Good call.
10-30-2012 11:28 AM
killclimbz I've heard that about Montana. A sled assist is very helpful. We do have a lot of great pass access here, but there are plenty of slogs too. Gore range stuff, fourteeners and most peaks over 13 require typically something like a 5-7 mile approach. Some even more, but I tend to start thinking I want a sled for those...
10-30-2012 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
I really need to do some Montana splitting...
you make the trip ill show you around.

No easy access from mt passes like you have in CO. Get ready for a slog. The fairy lake area (from the video) is a four mile skin in on the road before you get to anything moderately steep once they close the gate. (gates still open this time of year making it a bit of a gangbang) Another two miles to get to some lines. Seems like most zones require atleast a three mile flat slog. The trail heads are close to town, with in 15 miles, so you spend your time hiking instead of driving.

unless your talking cooke city..aka..heaven

skipped the season pass this year and bought a cheap sled to get out to the steeps quicker. Working on a dynafit soft boot and kicker skin set up to make flats go a little quicker.
10-30-2012 10:42 AM
killclimbz I really need to do some Montana splitting...
10-30-2012 10:19 AM
walove i dont know the people but i know the line. I skied the same line last october. And turned back off a line last november. The bowl is very tight keeping sunlight out and holding snow for a long time.

the bridgers picked up over two feet at that elevation from wed-sat night. then temps spiked sunday morning. certain aspects had a lingering crust and hoar from the early october snow. (seen in the gnfac video from sphinx mt) When i was out on thursday at the ski area all we could find was unconsolidated snow sitting on dirt grass and rocks.

I guessing similar conditions as when we turned back off a line in the same bowl last november. We hiked on unconsolidated snow from the trailhead to the bottom of the bowl, around 2 miles. Still new snow on the ground and no base. As we started to climb the line to ski the new snow became more wind effected, and deeper. Hand tests had showed that the new snow was ready slide as it was now formed a slab from the wind and was sitting on the old crust. We stopped going up and climbed over a scree ridge and decended on a small protected slope.

conditions change quick, elevation, and aspect change the picture fast. We were aware of where the old snow was because we had been into the area a few weeks before. Once its all covered things get tricky.

heres a video from last year

10-30-2012 09:31 AM
DrnknZag Slide in the Bridger Range last weekend......

Walove I know you're local out there, have you heard anything about this one?
10-29-2012 09:14 AM
killclimbz Hoop creek is a classic terrain trap in spots. So yes there is some danger there. Fairly safe most of the time. Yes there have been slides back there, enough to bury.
10-26-2012 05:42 PM
linvillegorge If it's 30 degrees or steeper or underneath terrain that is 30 degrees or steeper, it has the potential to slide. The "it's never slid before" thought process is a dangerous one. If it has snow on it and it's over 30 degrees, it can slide and Murphy's Law says that the first time you see it slide it'll be when your ass is on it.
10-26-2012 05:22 PM
161lip Thanks, guys. I will heed your advice.

By Floral Park, I mean the overall area that contains Jim's Glades, Hoop Creek, ect; so when I say we only ride Floral Park, I really mean we only ride Hoop Creek and Jim's Glades. Is this the correct way to talk about that area- is there a specific run called Floral Park?

Has Hoop Creek ever slid?
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