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10-30-2012 04:17 PM
extra0
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Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
^This

I just traded my Salomon Dialogues for some F2.0's. Now the Dialogues were too big for me (hence I returned them), but the difference in boot size is crazy. The dialogues barely fit in my large size bindings and I had at least an inch of overhang on both sides of my board. With the F2.0 I have less than a 1/2 inch of overhang and my straps are damn near bottomed out on my large Formulas (size 9.0 F2.0's).

They make my feet look small. It's kinda weird. One thing to note, doesn't seem like they will pack-out much. At least not like the dialogues did.
same thing here: I had last years dialogues and they were tough to get in my med bindings and were maxing out my straps (getting the ratchets to even engage was taking twice the time and literally wearing me out). Dialogues size have really gotten huge lately...the ones from a couple years back fit in medium bindings fine.

Unfortunately, I'm getting the dreaded Achilles tendon chafe from the 2012 F2.0. Some say it's a seam flaw in the fused "liner" design and/or the lack of a standard liner. Others say the boot is relatively stiff and needs to break in some flex.

I've only worn them 10 days. I tried "moleskin" padded tape on my Achilles, but that didn't help. Since the inside of the boot isn't that soft, I still want to try some mid-weight socks (I was wearing lightweight socks).

I also should try 3rd party insoles. The factory "mystic" insoles are relatively nice, but aren't particularly high heeled and might be placing my tendon in the worst spot.

I really want to keep this boot. I love the way the F2.0 fit and the reduced weight. Standard liner "clod-hoppers" don't even seem like an option any more...I'm hooked.
10-29-2012 01:51 AM
Justin
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Originally Posted by eli783 View Post
Im riding in 08-09 rulers so I doubt they had that tech back then. These things are freaking behemoths. Ive gotten used to "lack" of response in midwides n wides and honestly its not to bothersome. I just hate the feeling of having to be subjected to just wides especially because im only 160lbs.
I see, i thought you ment the boots were only one year old as in last years boot.
10-29-2012 01:35 AM
eli783
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Originally Posted by linvillegorge View Post
Salomons do tend to run narrow, so keep that in mind. It's why I always go with them. It's tough to find snowboarding boots to fit narrow feet.
Wow thanks for saving me a trip to this shop that has a few pairs miles away. Definitely wont work for these dogs
10-29-2012 01:24 AM
eli783
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Originally Posted by Justin View Post
IM pretty sure the rulers had reduced footprint last year, am i wrong? If this is the case then don't buy new ones with the same tech.
Im riding in 08-09 rulers so I doubt they had that tech back then. These things are freaking behemoths. Ive gotten used to "lack" of response in midwides n wides and honestly its not to bothersome. I just hate the feeling of having to be subjected to just wides especially because im only 160lbs.
10-29-2012 01:18 AM
lonerider
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Originally Posted by SnowMotion View Post
...Yes or we would not go threw all the trouble. Again it has allot to do with how much you ride.
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Originally Posted by SnowMotion View Post
The problem is a regular width board can ride pow and land and everything else perfectly. The wider boards though they may have some small pros (mainly eliminating toe drag) they do not match up to the reg board. .
I didn't understand what you just wrote. From my understanding the main drawback with wider boards is torsional rigidity and being slightly slow edge to edge.

Could you take a moment to explain more clearly your thinking on why regular is so much better than a mid-wide? I actually ride regular/narrow width boards, but I'm interested in understanding your reasoning.
10-28-2012 11:59 PM
bseracka
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Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
^This

I just traded my Salomon Dialogues for some F2.0's. Now the Dialogues were too big for me (hence I returned them), but the difference in boot size is crazy. The dialogues barely fit in my large size bindings and I had at least an inch of overhang on both sides of my board. With the F2.0 I have less than a 1/2 inch of overhang and my straps are damn near bottomed out on my large Formulas (size 9.0 F2.0's).

They make my feet look small. It's kinda weird. One thing to note, doesn't seem like they will pack-out much. At least not like the dialogues did.
They don't pack out much. What you have is pretty close to what you end up with. They're not like other boots where you can expect a half size packout.
10-28-2012 11:51 PM
Justin
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Originally Posted by eli783 View Post
so its really not worth throwing down serious loot on it is what your saying if I dont need em? The rulers that I have now are only a season old but i get this weird pain in my left foot when riding them for a while hard. So even though Im not desperate for a new pair I wouldnt mind seeing whats available out there.
IM pretty sure the rulers had reduced footprint last year, am i wrong? If this is the case then don't buy new ones with the same tech.
10-28-2012 10:42 PM
OldDog
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Originally Posted by linvillegorge View Post
Solomon F series footprint a lot more than just a half size smaller. My F22s are barely any bigger than my hiking boots.
^This

I just traded my Salomon Dialogues for some F2.0's. Now the Dialogues were too big for me (hence I returned them), but the difference in boot size is crazy. The dialogues barely fit in my large size bindings and I had at least an inch of overhang on both sides of my board. With the F2.0 I have less than a 1/2 inch of overhang and my straps are damn near bottomed out on my large Formulas (size 9.0 F2.0's).

They make my feet look small. It's kinda weird. One thing to note, doesn't seem like they will pack-out much. At least not like the dialogues did.
10-28-2012 10:27 PM
SnowMotion
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Originally Posted by ChiTownRon View Post
Well what exactly are the cons and pros of this? Trying to downsize in boots just to get a non wide board doesn't seem like it would help out that much in my eyes. Isn't it basically take your pick on preference? Wide board seem like they would be better for landings and riding pow as I can see non wide board turning better and possibly slightly lighter?
The problem is a regular width board can ride pow and land and everything else perfectly. The wider boards though they may have some small pros (mainly eliminating toe drag) they do not match up to the reg board. So if it is possible to downsize within a comfortable limit to get on the reg board its worth it.

If you are the type of rider that finds himself traveling and needs a board for certain types of riding like landings or pow, Its time to build a quiver.
10-28-2012 09:48 PM
ChiTownRon
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Originally Posted by SnowMotion View Post
...Yes or we would not go threw all the trouble. Again it has allot to do with how much you ride.
Well what exactly are the cons and pros of this? Trying to downsize in boots just to get a non wide board doesn't seem like it would help out that much in my eyes. Isn't it basically take your pick on preference? Wide board seem like they would be better for landings and riding pow as I can see non wide board turning better and possibly slightly lighter?
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