Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums - Reply to Topic
Thread: Union SL vs force?? Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 
   

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
11-09-2012 07:34 PM
Alkasquawlik
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nivek View Post

By the way the toe ratchet on my 09 Contacts is the same as on the 2013 Force. But the Force is milled out. Which does nothing to change the functionality. It works the exact same way and still performs sub par compared to the rest of the industry.
What do you not understand?? It works "subpar" for YOU. Obviously it doesn't work subpar for a vast majority of riders, or they would choose to ride something else.

And although you may not have called out Union or said they suck, your butt buddy went above and beyond the call of duty, and I consider you two basically the same person.

BTW, fwiw, I set up a customer's Contact Pros on his Skunk Ape today. Rotated the highbacks, dialed in his 32 boots, the whole shebang. It took me less than 30 minutes. I dunno what you were doing fiddling around with a pair of bindings for 2 hours. If you couldn't figure them out in 120 minutes, clearly they weren't the bindings for you.

Gotta step yo game up son.
11-09-2012 06:57 PM
Nivek
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFBF View Post
Pheasants.
We're birds now? $400 wasnt a claim. My point behind that was to avoid the "well maybe your boots just have shitty dampening" comment. Admittedly an inefficient way to get that across. i have nothing to prove to any of you. I do what I do cause I know what I'm talking about and people value what I have to say.

Please, explain to me how having solid plastic from heel to board provides any dampening. Cause it doesnt. This dampening issue is not something I've recently decided exists. I noticed it when I OWNED Datas. The bushings do not dampen for shock, the deaden chatter a bit and promote better board flex.

And do you all realize you are bitching and whining to me for simply calling a toe strap, ratchet, and one of their frames dampening crap. I havent said the entire binding sucks once. And again, I have owned 3 different pairs and ridden 2 more on more than one occasion. I have more than 200 days in Unions.

By the way the toe ratchet on my 09 Contacts is the same as on the 2013 Force. But the Force is milled out. Which does nothing to change the functionality. It works the exact same way and still performs sub par compared to the rest of the industry.
11-09-2012 06:04 PM
Extremo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nivek View Post
The ratchets haven't changed.

Apparently I ride harder or hit bigger stuff. Cause my knees kill me after a day in sub par dampened bindings. And I ride $400 boots.
Don't listen to shit-for-brains here. Ratchets have been upgraded.
11-09-2012 06:02 PM
Extremo So this place has turned into a serious joke. Thanks Nivek.

To the OP...if you still give a shit. I ride the Force on my rail board and the SL on my all mtn board.
The SL baseplate is stiffer and more responsive than the force.
The SL Highback has more torsional flex then the force but the same lateral stiffness. Dampening is the same...which is decent, but obviously not like riding on pillows.
The SL has a slightly softer asym ankle straps, the force have a stiffer uniform strap.
11-09-2012 05:44 PM
Cr0_Reps_Smit you know, for people here to drop "knowledge" you sure sound a like a bunch of hypocrites.
11-09-2012 04:33 PM
phony_stark ShreddyTN why didn't you post this on Easyloungin? Just curious....also, should you go with the Union Force you will need boots that are at LEAST $401 dollars to counteract the Union force's dampening system. Or your knees will fall off.

BFBF suggests $1000 boots for extra float in pow and smooth riding under tough conditions.
11-09-2012 04:23 PM
BFBF
Quote:
Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
Bro, I heard on $800 boots you can jump off of a building, land feet first, and walk away.

You haven't heard?
I only will wear 1000$ boots which allow me to "hover" over the snow like a god walking on water thus trivial things that mortals worry about such as dampening don't exist in my world.

Pheasants.
11-09-2012 04:15 PM
Alkasquawlik
Quote:
Originally Posted by phony_stark View Post
Alka, if you spent just $50 more, your boots could have healed wounds.
Those $50 were spent buying new Analog outerwear, since they are useless after one season.
11-09-2012 04:08 PM
phony_stark Alka, if you spent just $50 more, your boots could have healed wounds.
11-09-2012 04:03 PM
Alkasquawlik
Quote:
Originally Posted by saloman View Post
If we're comparing binding dampening then the quality of the boot is absolutely relevant. Assuming a $400 dollar boot is going to have quality dampening, then you can hold all variables but the binding constant and make a comparative judgement.

But I suppose that gets in the way of a good ribbing.
It does.

With that said, I have Nike Kaijus ($350 retail for whoever gives a fuck), and I've never, ever had knee problems after riding, and I've been on Unions for the past 5 years or so.

Maybe Nivek is just a little girl?
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome