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11-15-2012 08:28 PM
timmytard
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Are you a girl? Cuz dumb girls are hot
Totally!!

You better be a girl, if you're a dude. Your handle reaks of HOMO!!

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11-15-2012 07:45 PM
lonerider
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Originally Posted by goranl82 View Post
Hi everyone and thanks for your replies. I'm getting more and more confused by the differences in lenght of similar snowboard models from different manufacturers. For example, when comparing the Rome Agent to the Burton Custom, which was supposed to be almost identical board, one can see that the latter is available in many different lenghts, going up to 169, while the longest Agent comes in 160. Bataleon Evil Twin and Riot also come longest in 159. Is that because Burton makes boards for a wider variety of riders weights, or is the Custom ridden longer due to differences in shape? For me, carving is currently the first thing I would like to learn properly. That' why I chose to stay with a cambered board. On the other hand, where I live the possibilities of riding powder are limited on only a few days per season, but there is park. Thats why I would go shorter - to allow for better park riding possibilities as I get better. So i thought that the Agent in 158 would be a good compromise for me... Would you recommend any other brand/model for me?
Sorry, trying to get back on topic. To OP, the reason why the Custom have more size options is simply a commercial decision - Burton makes/sell a LOT of snowboards (40% of the entire market I think) and so it can afford to have a lot of size options to fit it's massive customer base. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised that Burton makes more instances of the Burton Custom model in a year than Rome's entire production lineup since Rome has less than 2% of the market.

If there is no powder, then you probably can get away with going a few cm shorter. As for "park riding possibilities as you get better"... it is my opinion that you should get the board that is going to be good for you right now instead of trying to compromise for something you might do far in the future. It's like buying an SUV because you might go off-roading (where in reality I'm pretty sure 99% of people never get rougher than a gravel road if even).

Having a board that is 2-3 cm longer is going to be barely noticeable when you are starting out in the park. Straight airs, grabs, 180s, 50-50 on rails, boardslides on rail all can easily be done by anyone who knows what they are doing on any reasonably length board of reasonable stiffness (i.e. unless you are getting the longest, stiffess board possible... you can learn park with any board). Once you are starting to attempt 540s and 270-to-boardslides, then because that's what you are doing a lot... getting a shorter, freestyle oriented board makes sense (my opinion... since I can actually spin a 540 and do a 270-to-board... I feel like my opinion is worth more than people who can't do those park tricks... but still try to recommend boards for general riding like they can).

If you are new to snowboard and not a teenager who rides park all day... realistically you are not likely going to improve fast enough to worry about needing a freestyle specific board while you own your current board.
11-15-2012 07:25 PM
lonerider
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U saw that forum? That guy asked why he cant grab on 5ft jump. Anybody with just little experience in riding will know why. Two more people responded to that forum, both said it was because less airtime, exactly what I said.
Yea... except neither of them name-dropped the "doing 720s" with grabs when answering the question either.
11-15-2012 06:00 PM
wernersl
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I'll trade you! I was was 135-140 pounds for ages, sometime in my early 20's I got sedentary and hit 170-180 pretty quick. Now I have to make a conscious effort to stay around 160 lb. Muscle does seem easier to build now that I'm a fat bastard!
my fat ass got first dibs on the trade sucka...
11-15-2012 05:54 PM
poutanen
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U saw that forum? That guy asked why he cant grab on 5ft jump. Anybody with just little experience in riding will know why. Two more people responded to that forum, both said it was because less airtime, exactly what I said.
BAH! Of course you can grab off a 5 foot jump. I think I've grabbed while ollieing before. It's all about pre-loading. I realize this is off-topic but I'd love to show you guys the little rail park setup at Nakiska at the moment that I'm doing grabs at. There's barely any grade and I'm just jumping off the rail kickers and doing some grabs for fun.

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Man... you were hitting the weights to gain/fluctuate between 160 lbs to 190 lbs. Didn't have any chemical assistance? jk. I'm just jealous because I have a light frame and can't build much muscle mass.
I'll trade you! I was was 135-140 pounds for ages, sometime in my early 20's I got sedentary and hit 170-180 pretty quick. Now I have to make a conscious effort to stay around 160 lb. Muscle does seem easier to build now that I'm a fat bastard!
11-15-2012 05:21 PM
wernersl
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Originally Posted by goranl82 View Post
That sounds very promising... How about on hardpack/ice? Realistically speaking, these are the predominant conditions where I ride...
i ride primarily southern california. thats most of the season for me!
11-15-2012 05:13 PM
goranl82 That sounds very promising... How about on hardpack/ice? Realistically speaking, these are the predominant conditions where I ride...
11-15-2012 05:13 PM
wernersl
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jk. I'm just jealous because I have a light frame and can't build much muscle mass.
trade ya...
11-15-2012 05:10 PM
lonerider
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I said without problem, it wasn't ideal but didn't notice any big problem anywhere. In short: I just wanted to say that 2-3cm don't make big difference in performance.
Would have been better if you said that in the first place (and that you were actually 180 lbs). Your original reply of "I was riding 151 Evo at 190lbs..without problem all over the mountain. Its not about lenght:P" can easily be misunderstood by someone who doesn't know much about snowboards.


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I often see that people are struggling if they pick board 3cm longer they cant go to park or hit a rail because is too big for that...3% more or less lenght won't make a big difference.
It goes both ways... if going down 3cm in length doesn't make a huge difference in freeriding... it also means it doesn't make a difference in the park if you board is just 3 cm longer. I think that idea that you can't do a 50-50 on a rail because the board is 3 cm longer is nonsense. You can't do a jump or a rail in the park because you are bad at it - not because the board is 2% longer and heavier. Like you said... a long, stiff board is not ideal for park, but it's also not a 'big problem". Check out this guy doing jumps and halfpipe on a 222 cm board (I know some have already seen it). I don't have a video of it, but I've done nosepresses, noserolls, and boardslides on Rad Air Tanker 172 cm board (again, not ideal or recommended...)

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I started to workout back then..so my weight is going up and down often.
Man... you were hitting the weights to gain/fluctuate between 160 lbs to 190 lbs. Didn't have any chemical assistance? jk. I'm just jealous because I have a light frame and can't build much muscle mass.
11-15-2012 05:05 PM
wernersl i learned on a 1997 Burton Custom. talk about an edgy board. caught so many wild edges on that thing. as i progressed i definitely out-grew it. really chattery with almost no edgehold. my raptor will hold an edge like no tomorrow and haveny caught a nasty edge spill yet. i think youd be fine on one of their all mountain offerings. very forgiving.
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