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12-01-2012 05:13 PM
dreampow
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Originally Posted by Deviant View Post
This is my view exactly.
I think the problem is that the second someone questions what was reported from media/government, they are labeled a conspiracy nut and instantly discredited.

I don't believe the general public would take a review of the events on 9/11 seriously unless it was some big name congressman or another household name.
Yes, making questioning government a fundamentally "anti america" and "crazy" thing to do has been a very successful strategy of the media around 9-11.

As you say it would take a lot to get most people to question it, apparently Generals and scientists carry very little weight with the american public.

We need Oprah.
12-01-2012 12:48 AM
Deviant
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Originally Posted by dreampow View Post
What I find very sad is that it seems most americans refuse to even look at something like the patriots 9-11.

People are so totally unable to think for themselves or question authority/mass media.

They won't even consider the possibility that the official story could be wrong. They won't question their government even if that means swallowing blatant lies.
This is my view exactly.

I should have worded my previous post differently regarding the conspiracy nuts. I think the problem is that the second someone questions what was reported from media/government, they are labeled a conspiracy nut and instantly discredited. Yes, there are the nuts that think planet whatever is going to collide with earth this year (Frosty was his name I think?), but the word conspiracy has almost been labeled to the word "insanity" in this country. I don't believe the general public would take a review of the events on 9/11 seriously unless it was some big name congressman or another household name.

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... think how glorious a public execution of the Bush Administration would be. i would record it and use their screams of anguish as a fucking ringtone
Yeah but Cheney would have another heart attack as soon as he's sentenced.
11-30-2012 01:22 AM
dreampow
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... think how glorious a public execution of the Bush Administration would be. i would record it and use their screams of anguish as a fucking ringtone.
It would make the perfect half time show on superbowl Sunday.
11-29-2012 05:44 PM
ShredLife ... think how glorious a public execution of the Bush Administration would be. i would record it and use their screams of anguish as a fucking ringtone.
11-29-2012 05:33 PM
dreampow Absolutely Jeffrey,

If you are prepared to look at it, the only conclusion you can come to is that something is wrong and lies are being told.

If only the masses weren't so totally accepting of what the mass media says this could have already been dealt with by now.

As it is even on SBF, you bring it up and people say shit like "move along, get over it, whats the point, it would be worse if the truth came out".

People may say petitions and spreading the word won't change anything.

Well its a damn sight better than doing nothing, dropping your pants and bending over.

I believe things will change in our global society, the balance of power will shift.

One of the first steps is awareness of what is actually going on as opposed to what we are told to believe through mass media.
11-29-2012 07:19 AM
JeffreyCH I'm not a conspiracy nut, I full on believe the gov't did it. Besides the impossible flying skills needed to hit the pentagon, there was only one piece of grainy footage? Really? So the pentagon doesn't have multiple high resolution surveillance cameras? Bullshit!!

Add to that the fact that several of the "terrorist" were seen in the days before drinking at a strip club in Florida. No devout Muslim would be caught dead in such a place, especially ones on jihad preparing to meet Allah.

Then there is the "training" exercises that pretty much nullified our civil air defenses. Pretty fucking convenient that they happen to be running anti-terrorist exercises on that day that confused our whole air guard.

Let's not forget the testimony of several people (including firefighters) that say they heard what sounded like controlled demo charges going off in WTC 7. All of whom are now deceased, pretty nice of them to all croak before they could testify in Congress...hmmmm

Nothing about that day adds up to what the official story is, so believe whatever you want to, I know those bastards in the Busch white house did it.
11-29-2012 06:59 AM
dreampow What I find very sad is that it seems most americans refuse to even look at something like the patriots 9-11.

Generals, Colonels, Professors, Architects, Pilots and Engineers numbering in the thousands are saying 9-11cannot be explained by the official version of events.

People are so totally unable to think for themselves or question authority/mass media.

They won't even consider the possibility that the official story could be wrong. They won't question their government even if that means swallowing blatant lies.

“It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.”

― Benjamin Franklin

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”
Abraham Lincoln

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear-kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor-with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it..."
--General Douglas MacArthur, 1957
11-28-2012 05:48 PM
dreampow As I said I don't really know who was involved or to what level, but I doubt a revolution would be on the cards.

In modern america almost nothing could cause a full revolution IMO.

People have been so dumbed down for so long.

More likely a very few individuals in government would be carted of to prison for their involvement or at least failure to act on prior intelligence, which is manslaughter in this case.
11-28-2012 10:51 AM
snowklinger
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most likely cause a quite bloody revolution and leave us quite vulnerable. The government would left vacant.

Fingers Crossed.
11-28-2012 07:49 AM
ThunderChunky
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explanation" for TWA Flight 800 is poppycock!
Poppycock. It is poppycock. Pure Fiction.



But to why it would be worse. Look at how slow and dysfunctional our government is now. Let's empty a good portion of those positions. Then you are going to be very vulnerable and cause quite a stir. If people weren't close enough to some type of revolt, they will be now. Lots of people will die and nothing will be accomplished accept for the fact that the people who didn't care enough about the truth to investigate it will now know what happened, who apparently didn't care about the truth anyway.

And I am also not saying I know more scientifically than you. I sure as hell don't, but there a shit ton of other people who have who have answered every question posed to them by these conspiracy theorists.

I'm not saying it was as we were told, the government ignored blatant signs of this. They could have at the very least prepared better for an attack they knew was coming.
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