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01-04-2013 01:11 AM
pwol
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Originally Posted by Sincraft View Post
what you are doing wrong is, complaining about a 3 hour drive to Killington. It's Killington man. That place is just amazing! I drive 12 hours to get there lol
Lol, fair enough. I wish I could find some cheap places to stay up there though. Day trips all the time gets a little annoying.


Hey I just wanted to post a little update...

I went upto Wachusett Mass. last night for some night boarding. It was my first time night boarding and I learned that my goggle lens suck at night, so I rode with my goggles up on my helmet most of the night.

Anyways, I had a blast out there. Felt the progress in my form and had a lot of fun. The main problem I noticed was just not being used to the speed yet. Idk how accurate the Ski Tracks APP is, but I got several runs in going upto ~34 mph. Idk if thats any fast, but it was for me. I got upto these speeds even on choppy East coast conditions. It felt great bending the knees, getting low, and absorbing all those bumps at those speeds.

I thought you guys would be proud of this part... towards the end we went on some green trails and decided to ride them switch a couple of times. We were just fooling around but it turned out to be extremely fun. I always neglected switch and never linked any turns switch before. I took everything I learned from this thread and applied it to switch (again, the most notable being the knee to toe / hip drive technique.) I fell a couple of times in the beginning, but picked it up very fast. It made me really focus on the technique and forced me to see all the little things that are going on. Even though it was just on some green trails, I honestly feel I rode switch my first time better than I did regular in that video I posted before.

Oh and I also did some small 180* jumps for the first time ever, they were at pretty low speeds but I was pretty stoked haha.

The responses in this thread have been amazing, There's no possible way I would be making so much progress in such little time without you guys. Thanks again for taking the time out to post all the in depth responses to my (and all the other threads on this board) questions. I'm still just getting the hang of everything, and still have so much to learn so I'll be back with more vids and questions.

I'm going upto Killington sometimes next week, I plan on fixing my GoPro handle by then and hope to get some new footage!
12-30-2012 02:34 PM
Sincraft
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Originally Posted by pwol View Post
Just some background info:

- Vid is from my first day of the season so I'm stiff / rusty / tired from waking up at 5am and driving 3 hours
- I'm in the red jacket
- I think this is the 8th day I've ever been on a snowboard

If you just want to mute/ just watch my parts go to:

0:25-0:47 (I think this was the first run of the season actually)
1:15-1:26
1:45-2:00 (you can see me infront, I tried making quicker turns)
3:02-3:10






I'm driving up again on Wednesday and would really appreciate any comments/tips/suggestions/things to focus on.

I posted this in the video forum, and a poster said I'm using my back foot to rudder the board. I only took one lesson and they never even got to linking turns, just falling leaf... so I learned the rest by myself and never had anyone show me how to properly carve.

oh also, my board (NS SL) has a slight setback, would that play any factor in making me rudder the board more or is it just my lack of skill? I'll go look over the board and post the measurements/how I have my bindings set up to make sure its ok.

Thanks!!
what you are doing wrong is, complaining about a 3 hour drive to Killington. It's Killington man. That place is just amazing! I drive 12 hours to get there lol
12-26-2012 08:28 PM
slyder You are at that point of it "clicking" and taking another step forward. This forum has helped many riders including myself. Keep us updated... and keep riding time on the snow really helps.
12-26-2012 08:24 PM
pwol Thanks again everyone.

cliffs on what happened today:

- rode with a slight cold / 4 hours of sleep + had to drive 3 hours
- changed my stance width, I felt it was too narrow / had too much setback
- busted my ass hard the first couple of runs due to ^^ and not being used to the stance
- focused mainly on leaning downhill, putting more weight on my front foot, using the front foot to initiate turns, bending knees more, etc. was making good progress
- on our lunch break I checked this thread and read Snowolf's post... tried digesting as much as I can from it and went back out
- WOW the driving my front knee down to my big toe helped my riding sooo much. I was pushing my shins down into my boot tongue alot more and was leaning/riding so much better. Again, thanks again for writing that detailed response!!
- (a good amount of the time) I felt that distinct feel of the edges actually digging in on both toe/heel side and saw a thin line left behind me

I have SO much more to learn, but felt I moved onto the right track of learning. I rode tons better than what you saw in the video I posted.

jml22, yeah I figured the speed would take a while to get used to, definitely felt uneasy a couple of times lol. But I was really pushing it and riding faster than I had ever before.

Today I felt that most of my mistakes came from switching from high (relative to me lol) speed toe side to heel side turns. Im talking about the really wide turns, not the narrow going really fast turns. I think its a combination of 1) not being used to the speed 2) poor body position. I found that I would try slowing down right after the transition, and in doing so would always get a couple of "hops" and catch a little bit of air instead of just smoothly riding on my heelside, resulting in me falling on my ass. I think this is mostly due to riding in the backseat on that transition rather than leaning downhill.

The last 2-3 hours felt amazing though. I dont think I had a single big fall and really felt the progress I have made. I wish I had video footage of it, but my GoPro grenade grip handle mount thing broke in a fall on my very first run. Hopefully I'll get some next time. I can't wait to get out there again and learn some more!

I went up with 2 friends, one being this chick who took these pics and did that instagram filter bs on em









lol
12-26-2012 07:00 PM
MGD81 Im going to disagree with Snowolf here, for the following reasons.

Maybe I have misread something, but why would you give a few specific rotation knee movements and then ask the student to make large radius turns?

As for the flexion and extension, I wouldn't take somebody who does not flex and extend at all, has no dynamic steering movements, and ask them to make cross under turns straight off the bat. That also doesn't make sense at all.
12-26-2012 01:35 PM
jml22 Keep in mind it takes time to get used to the speed and you're gonna want to reflexively slow down. I wouldlnt rush this process cause you might panic and eat shit
12-26-2012 04:38 AM
NoirX252 I just got back into riding softboots more often, and have realized how much knee drive really helps, although I have a question snowwolf.

1. instead of front/rear knee drive, what would driving both knees towards the turn do? as in heel side, rotating both knees/feet into the turn, regular stance, rotating the lower body joints counter-clockwise... and clockwise for toeside.

2. how radical should fore/aft be? if i get extremely radical, I feel like the turn ends before I get a chance to go aft, even on really big sidecuts on alpine boards, should it be automatic/subtle at higher levels of riding?

Knee drive is really powerful stuff..
Alpine gear..
1. snapped used bindings
2. bought new bindings, snapped it after 3 1/2 hours of riding...

I just for shits tried it on softoboots, and despite it doing slightly different stuff at angles like 15/3, it still adds to the performance. I've seen videos like casi (twist the discs) always thought it was a load of bs, nope, I won't discount anything now and experiment super freely.

(PS: softboots have come such a dam long way, it's amazing)
12-26-2012 12:53 AM
cocolulu What you're basically doing is sideslip turning. When you're sideslipping, you're applying the brakes, so you're not really carving.

The issue is that you're going one direction, and you whip the board another direction. It will sideslip until you ease up and let the edge take you in a new direction.

To carve, the goal is to get you're board at an angle and let the edge cut an arc through the snow. You will feel your board cut and sweep in an arc across the snow. It will not feel like grinding. You have to be patient with your board. Don't swing the board around, get on the edge, get your balance, and let the board turn you. If you try to rush the turn, you'll sideslip.

I frankly think you can carve on greens, it's just hard to get the speed you need for hard carving and hard turns. But greens is a good place to start, because you don't feel the need to apply the brakes and skid. Then you can take it to blues and blacks and try harder carving.
12-25-2012 02:49 PM
jml22 True carving is hard to perfect and not always necessary (even though it's fun), but it's kind of hard to do it effectively through the trees and bumps etc....
Being dynamic is what's important.
Like someone said before it looks like you're wagging your tail and going straight down the mountain and not actually turning.
Watch the snowprofessors on videos, take a few hours to practice by yourself.

Bend your knees, get your weight forward so you're perpendicular to the slope and get full control of your board. Those would be the main things to work on right now. Start turning and then get more dynamic.
12-25-2012 12:18 PM
pwol
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Originally Posted by ARSENALFAN View Post
Yikes. I hope that hill gets some snow real soon! We have hills that look like that in August.
That footage was shot a month ago (before Thanksgiving lol), hopefully it'll look better tomorrow!
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