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01-14-2013 12:16 PM
arrrmaty
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Originally Posted by xsimplicity View Post
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply Arrrmaty! This actually really helped. I always though if the toes are just barely touching then it's loose. A lot of people say to have all of the toes touching the tip because of the pack out that will happen. The boots I have now have that barely skimming feeling but are more comfortable for me then having my toes all touching the tip (my toes would turn a bit red if that was to happen). When i kick with my boots on, they don't slide at all. Looks like I'll be keeping these boots!
Thanks again
Well awesome, I'm glad I was able to help. And you got to keep the boots that you ultimately wanted too, so win win. It sounds like you have a good fit, and the correct fit. Happy riding
01-14-2013 12:08 PM
xsimplicity
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Pack out is usually about a half size, so if you think your foot will still be snug and not move around after the liner packs out then you're probably good. When I used to fit people I would usually try to get their toes so that they were just barely skimming the front, not firm against the front or scrunched up, but just barely, barely touching because the liner will pack out. Every brand and model's toe box is different, so you will be able to wiggle your toes more or less depending on the brand and model and your foot shape (wide or slim), and you should be able to move them a little bit otherwise you will have circulation issues and be uncomfotable. If you kick the foot forward while the boot is on the ground and you feel your foot slide forward inside the boot, or if your heel lifts at all when you step then either the boot is too big or you need to tie them tighter. If your foot stays put and all the other criteria is met then you have a good fit. But remember to take my advice with a grain of salt because I am not there personally fitting your boots and you are the only one who really knows what's going on down in your boots and if it feels right. And I promise I'm not trying to make you second guess yourself. I'm just a huge fan of happy feet because your day really can depend on how your feet feel. Sorry for the long winded answer, but there is a lot more to boot fitting than most people think or take the time to consider
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply Arrrmaty! This actually really helped. I always though if the toes are just barely touching then it's loose. A lot of people say to have all of the toes touching the tip because of the pack out that will happen. The boots I have now have that barely skimming feeling but are more comfortable for me then having my toes all touching the tip (my toes would turn a bit red if that was to happen). When i kick with my boots on, they don't slide at all. Looks like I'll be keeping these boots!
Thanks again
01-11-2013 01:28 PM
arrrmaty
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Originally Posted by xsimplicity View Post
The half size up is snug, but my toes are still able to move around. When wearing boots, are toes supposed to have wiggle room? How big is the "pack out" is it a small change like half a size? (I have the Impact 3 liner from Burton).
Pack out is usually about a half size, so if you think your foot will still be snug and not move around after the liner packs out then you're probably good. When I used to fit people I would usually try to get their toes so that they were just barely skimming the front, not firm against the front or scrunched up, but just barely, barely touching because the liner will pack out. Every brand and model's toe box is different, so you will be able to wiggle your toes more or less depending on the brand and model and your foot shape (wide or slim), and you should be able to move them a little bit otherwise you will have circulation issues and be uncomfotable. If you kick the foot forward while the boot is on the ground and you feel your foot slide forward inside the boot, or if your heel lifts at all when you step then either the boot is too big or you need to tie them tighter. If your foot stays put and all the other criteria is met then you have a good fit. But remember to take my advice with a grain of salt because I am not there personally fitting your boots and you are the only one who really knows what's going on down in your boots and if it feels right. And I promise I'm not trying to make you second guess yourself. I'm just a huge fan of happy feet because your day really can depend on how your feet feel. Sorry for the long winded answer, but there is a lot more to boot fitting than most people think or take the time to consider
01-11-2013 11:29 AM
xsimplicity
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Well as long as the half size up is snug and as long as you are happy with it then that's all that matters. But remember that the liner will "pack out" after several days of riding, so if it has room around your foot now when they're new, then they will be even roomier after a week or two of riding. If Burtons run small you should be ok, or you can always add a foot bed insert and that will take up some of the extra room
The half size up is snug, but my toes are still able to move around. When wearing boots, are toes supposed to have wiggle room? How big is the "pack out" is it a small change like half a size? (I have the Impact 3 liner from Burton).
01-11-2013 09:52 AM
arrrmaty Well as long as the half size up is snug and as long as you are happy with it then that's all that matters. But remember that the liner will "pack out" after several days of riding, so if it has room around your foot now when they're new, then they will be even roomier after a week or two of riding. If Burtons run small you should be ok, or you can always add a foot bed insert and that will take up some of the extra room
01-10-2013 12:59 PM
xsimplicity
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My bad, didn't realize you were up in Canada. So you liked both the Felix and Emerald, and you can find them both in stock? They both have the same flex rating and they have a lot of the same features, but the Felix has some extra features and they have different liners. I would go try the felix on both feet for 10 minutes, then try the Emerald on for 10 minutes. Buy the ones that feel the best. If you can't tell any difference in which one feels better, then buy the cheaper ones and use the extra money to put towards a lift ticket or some goggles or gloves or something. Or if you can't tell the difference just buy the ones you think match your board and outfit. Don't over think it, go with your gut
Well Felix boots are pretty much sold out of my size everywhere here - I managed to pick up the Felix half a size bigger than my actual size (seems like it still works well, unfortunately I was unable to try on the size 8.5 in the Felix because it was sold out but a lot of people say that Burton boots fit a bit smaller so its best to get it half a size up - plus, its the last size left!). There are still a lot of Emeralds left. Thanks for the help
01-10-2013 07:49 AM
arrrmaty
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I actually enjoy the speedlacing system as it's quick and easy. The thing with ordering online, it seems like a lot of the trust worthy online websites have it at a consistent price. I actually took the prices from the Canadian Burton website as well as a reputable store nearby, so unfortunately those prices don't apply to me .
My bad, didn't realize you were up in Canada. So you liked both the Felix and Emerald, and you can find them both in stock? They both have the same flex rating and they have a lot of the same features, but the Felix has some extra features and they have different liners. I would go try the felix on both feet for 10 minutes, then try the Emerald on for 10 minutes. Buy the ones that feel the best. If you can't tell any difference in which one feels better, then buy the cheaper ones and use the extra money to put towards a lift ticket or some goggles or gloves or something. Or if you can't tell the difference just buy the ones you think match your board and outfit. Don't over think it, go with your gut
01-09-2013 06:15 PM
snowducky I have the burton emeralds and while I like them, they seem like a pretty stiff boot. They're comfortable, but probably not as comfortable as a softer boot like the cocoa and I got them because I wanted a more responsive boot. My advice with the emeralds is to try them on at a local store before you buy them... I could see them not being everyone's cup of tea, especially if you liked the coco's.
01-09-2013 05:03 PM
xsimplicity
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A lot of the girl snowboard instructors that I used to teach with liked Salomon, and Thirtytwo (besides Burton). Are you partial to the speedlacing system? Unfortunately most board shops don't carry a lot of the models that each brand makes, especially when it comes to women's gear. You usually only get to see a couple models from each brand. Once you decide which boot you want though, make sure you check the prices online because you can usually get a better deal and find someone that has them in stock. Those prices seem high, even Burton's site is listing the Felix at $279.95 and the Emerald at $219.95. Even with shipping you can save some money.
I actually enjoy the speedlacing system as it's quick and easy. The thing with ordering online, it seems like a lot of the trust worthy online websites have it at a consistent price. I actually took the prices from the Canadian Burton website as well as a reputable store nearby, so unfortunately those prices don't apply to me .
01-09-2013 02:37 PM
arrrmaty
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Thanks for the advice. Burton doesnt have a large selection right now.. all the sales reps that I've spoken to recommended the emerald or the felix (they said the felix is a best seller). The felix is really comfortable though and the look matches my board as well! lol..are there any other brands/ models you would suggest for me to look at other than Burton?
A lot of the girl snowboard instructors that I used to teach with liked Salomon, and Thirtytwo (besides Burton). Are you partial to the speedlacing system? Unfortunately most board shops don't carry a lot of the models that each brand makes, especially when it comes to women's gear. You usually only get to see a couple models from each brand. Once you decide which boot you want though, make sure you check the prices online because you can usually get a better deal and find someone that has them in stock. Those prices seem high, even Burton's site is listing the Felix at $279.95 and the Emerald at $219.95. Even with shipping you can save some money.
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