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02-25-2013 09:57 PM
stillz Confidently riding one-footed takes a lot of practice, and I don't claim to be an expert at it. I do know that any rotation in the upper body will eventually transfer to the board (pivot). This often results in a heelside washout, so keep the shoulders steady relative to the board.

Also, I can't edge aggressively with my free foot. I have to be gentle with the free foot. Instead of trying to apply pressure to my edges per se, I pressure more toward the center of the board, but on the heel or toe side of center to shape turns, like I'm using the back of the ball of my foot and the front of my heel instead of the ends of my boot. That may be a clumsy explanation, but hopefully it makes some sense. It's just a different mental approach to steering the board, but it has helped me.
02-20-2013 10:22 AM
Lamps
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Originally Posted by freetheanimals View Post
I appreciate all that great advice. For the most part, I am staying straight when I get off the lift and have not been falling as much. The problem with the Whistler learning area chair lift is the exit is STEEP and the chair doesn't slow down! So I bailed badly recently.

My concern is when I do fall with one foot in the bindings how do I prevent injury? When I fell at that particular lift my board turned suddenly, forcing my front foot to slide forward while my back foot came off the stomp pad. That twisted my ankle and knee badly. Now, I'm a bit nervous about practicing one foot in even on gentle slopes because if I fall I could injure my ankle and/or knee.

As a newbie, I'm aware that even if I heed every bit of advice I'm going to occasionally fall. So how do I protect my knee and/or ankle while skating with just one foot in?

Beginner chairs are often fixed chairs, i.e. the chair doesn't slow down when you exit. They make the slope steep so that if you fall down the chair goes over you rather than hitting you. This is cold comfort for you as you have to skate down a steep slope but there is method to the madness.

I haven't read the whole thread but you seem to be getting lots of good advice, it gets better over time, and remember you are one lucky dog to be able to go to whistler so frequently.
02-20-2013 09:33 AM
edlo You caught an edge while turning right and fell forward, is your left foot strapped in? If so it sounds like you are leaning over the edge of the board and just falling over. You shouldn't be able to catch your toe side edge with your weight on your front foot only. Also if you are going too slow and trying to force a turn , you'll just fall over. Strap your board on carpet and and pickup your rear foot , rock heel and toe side. This is how it should feel getting off the lift.
After reading your other post I wonder if you leaning on your rear foot when you get nervous off the lift. If you lean on your rear foot , it will bring the rear foot around and you WILL catch the edge, Bad. Knee pad will help with impact, a brace can also be used as a preventive measure.
02-19-2013 05:03 PM
freetheanimals
Still struggling with steering the board while skating

I have been practicing LOTS at the Whistler learning area and focusing on some fundamentals, including skating with one foot in the bindings and forcing myself to face my demons with the chair lift often. Today, I did have another bad fall while offloading, though I didn't tweak my knee badly. Again, several skiers stood in the offload area. Since I am still not proficient at steering with just one foot in I did focus on straight ahead. And that worked fine, until I realized one of the skiers just stood right in front of me and stared at me not moving. To avoid hitting her I ever so slightly put pressure on my front foot to try to maneuver the board to the right. The result: I did go right but my board caught an edge and I went flying forward. This really scared me because I met a guy the other day who said he wrecked his knee by falling while he had one foot in the bindings. I will keep practicing but of all the skills I'm learning, one foot in the bindings while skating worries me the most because of potential injury.

On a more positive note, my turns are improving! I had picked up a bad habit of kicking my back foot to finish the turn but have worked hard to avoid doing that and relying more on the front foot. I'm also doing better with straight runs even though the speed freaks me out a bit.
02-19-2013 11:56 AM
wrathfuldeity If you are getting off the chair and there is a pile up...if you are on the side just do an immediate cut right or left or just do a controlled sit down and then roll off to the side...thus avioding plowing into others and/or an uncontrolled fall and injuring yourself or others. Its a hassle but better than ruiniing your or somebody elses day or season.
02-19-2013 11:46 AM
sb60 For getting off the lift what helped me the most was to think of 2 things: keep my board straight and reach for the front of my board with my front hand. Keeps the weight forward. To turn I put my toe over the front of the board. You can drag that foot hanging over to slow down.

I just look forward, where I'm going. I had a habit of focusing on some ice on the side of the lift and freaking out. I always wear knee pads. My husband has been riding a long time and he always wears them. These are pretty small foam ones. Not only to they help if you fall, they're warm for sitting in snow. I used to wear the hard plastic ones. They're good too.
02-17-2013 06:43 PM
Donutz
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Wtf -I'm not saying try to run into them but if you are out of control and about to blind side some it is better from them to know that you are out of control. This thread is about someone who has control issues coming off the lift. If someone was about to crash into into me which they have, I wish they gave me a "look out " or some warning,as their kid crashed into me.
Not a question of "out of control". Even someone with good control needs a certain amount of room to maneuver. I consider myself pretty good with the skating actually, but I've had situations where I've bumped someone or someone's bumped me, and those are generally pretty mellow. No one gets mad, often everyone apologizes. Shit happens, it's a crowded mountain, and you accommodate. But there are also the people who seem to be totally oblivious to the fact that there are other people on the mountain, some of whom may be getting off lifts. At Seymour we have a problem at the top of Lodge because there are not only a lot of noobs, but also a lot of lookeyloos (parents, pedestrians, snowshoers, etc) who just wander around. You can get off the Lodge chair three times out of four with no problem, then the fourth time there's an entire family just wandering through the landing, and sometimes I mean RIGHT THERE! Sometimes the lifties will come over to say something, but often the liftie is some 18 year old girl with no command voice whatsoever. So out comes something like "please sir and madam, do you think you could move?". I on the other hand can bellow, and I'm not the slightest bit reluctant.

And sometimes you can be setting up for a nice normal dismount and some asshat will choose that moment to cut through the landing area. If I don't have time to bellow or evade, I'm happy to run over his toes or shoulder-check him. The point is not to assume that you are the one at fault and that you have to accommodate. If someone does something stupid I absolutely will not sacrifice myself for their sake. My wife did that on boxing day and she's still not back on skis yet. So if it's me or you, you're going down.
02-17-2013 04:16 PM
edlo
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Originally Posted by Donutz View Post
Or you can yell "MOVE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!!" and ride straight at them.

There's "inconsiderate" and there's "just plain stupid". Stopping at the exit of the landing area is inconsiderate but you can get around it. Walking right through the landing area for instance is just plain stupid and those people need a wake-up call. I've run right over the equipment of people who do that, and actually straight-armed one guy.

I'm not normally a rude fuck a la BurtonAvenger but the guy's got some good points on some issues. There are people who are so dense that saying something polite like "Excuse me kind sir. Could I trouble you to move your Grey Poupon elsewhere?" just does nothing.
Wtf -I'm not saying try to run into them but if you are out of control and about to blind side some it is better from them to know that you are out of control. This thread is about someone who has control issues coming off the lift. If someone was about to crash into into me which they have, I wish they gave me a "look out " or some warning,as their kid crashed into me.
02-17-2013 10:34 AM
kaborkian
Padding for old guys

I'm an old dude snowboarding as well, just turned 46. I've been boarding for a lot of years, but generally only a few days a year, since I don't live by mountains. I've become what I would consider intermediate-advanced on all activities that don't involve leaving the ground...old remember?

For skating, or more accurately, sliding with 1 foot in, what helped me was something that has already been mentioned: push HARD against the back binding so your back foot is locked. Slide your foot a LITTLE bit towards the edge you need to use, then put even weight on both feet. Consciously use your front foot to lift the non edge side of the board, and also use your front foot to hold that edge.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is protective gear. I would guess most 20somethings will say suck it up, but for us older crowd, it HURTS to fall in hard pack or ice. Even something as simple as falling on your ass getting off of the lift can jar my back and make the rest of the day suck. I now wear padded shorts and knee pads. Falls like I'm describing hurt a LOT less. Instead of getting all twisted up and wrenching a knee, I just fall on my well padded ass.
02-17-2013 08:15 AM
Donutz
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Originally Posted by edlo View Post
If you see you have nowhere to go you can try to wave at the lift operator up and down with two hands to slow down the lift to clear out the people.
Or you can yell "MOVE YOU FUCKING MORONS!!!" and ride straight at them.

There's "inconsiderate" and there's "just plain stupid". Stopping at the exit of the landing area is inconsiderate but you can get around it. Walking right through the landing area for instance is just plain stupid and those people need a wake-up call. I've run right over the equipment of people who do that, and actually straight-armed one guy.

I'm not normally a rude fuck a la BurtonAvenger but the guy's got some good points on some issues. There are people who are so dense that saying something polite like "Excuse me kind sir. Could I trouble you to move your Grey Poupon elsewhere?" just does nothing.
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