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01-22-2017 02:44 PM
wrathfuldeity winter-lion...well to me the numbers don't mean much but to get you in the ballpark. Hopefully you have gotten to try on the dialogues.

ime, as long as your foot is not getting severely pinched width wise or toes...length wise, you are good...so as you are able to wiggle the tootsies. But the arch/instep thing is more of the issue; in part due to support of the arch (thus the aftermarket insoles that fit your arch) and the insoles help to keep your foot planted inside your boot/liner. I have 32 focus boas and can/do leave the tension fairly loose and at times even unlatched in the foot/lower boa. The lower boa is just to hold your foot in place with enough pressure to keep your foot planted on the insole...it does NOT take that much pressure...And in fact if you are crank it too much you will definitely get pain, numb feet and feel like your foot is getting crushed...because it is.

However, as for the inner lace that holds the ankle and heel in the heel pocket...that is locked down...about as tight as I can pull it. This inner lace is what holds the foot back and locks down the ankle...so that there is very little/no heel lift. You will see in some of my responses...the reference to using "butterfly" wraps...the reason, is the butterfly actually creates a deeper heel pocket and has the potential to mould around the back of the ankle above the heel (skinny part)...and thus help to lock down the heel...due to the creation of the deeper heel pocket.

As for the cuff, i.e., the upper boa...that is snugged down pretty firmly...because the cuff area of the boot/leg is what gives you the leverage to engage your edges. If you have too much slop in the cuff you can't get the power, leverage or support of driving your knees and thus pressuring the edges of the board. This is also where adding some foam to the outside of the liner on the tongue...this will help to push the heel back into the heel pocket and give you a bit of extra padding on the shin...so that you can really cinch the inner laces.

ime, the above works for me. But also ANTICIPATE that you will have some packing out...so when the packing out occures then you will feel it and adjust/add more foam as needed. Again at some point...the packing out will stop (at least in my case with 32 intuition liners) and hopefully you will have made the adjustments/modifications so that they will fit like slippers for years...until the boot shell gives out. Right now on my white 32 focus boas...iirc have 5-6 seasons = maybe 125 days and probably next year...this summer will looking to replace das boots
01-22-2017 02:16 PM
Winter_Lion
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WinterLion...ru the one that bought 32 lashed boots and your one foot is 1/2 size smaller?...If not, what do you got?
No, from wired's thread I got the Salomon Dialogue Wide Men's Size 7 because they don't sell 6.5 in men's. I believe that according to my measurements this means I'm a little more than a "C" wide in women's but just under the men's...

My measurements are:
Left foot: 24. 3 cm Length/9.646 inches
9.2 cm width/3.622 inches

Right foot: 24.5cm/9.843 Length
9.4 cm/3.701 inches


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01-22-2017 11:54 AM
wrathfuldeity
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Thanks @wrathfuldeity for the insightful thread. After being fitted by Wiredsport on his thread, my only option for my wide foot was a snowboarding boot half a size bigger, I have already gotten some Surefeet insoles. So, after two days riding in my boots I'm experiencing heel lift, I'll definitely get started in that. Should I start now before my boot actually packs out or start with the butterfly adjustments then c and j bars?

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WinterLion...ru the one that bought 32 lashed boots and your one foot is 1/2 size smaller?...If not, what do you got?
01-22-2017 12:43 AM
Winter_Lion Thanks @wrathfuldeity for the insightful thread. After being fitted by Wiredsport on his thread, my only option for my wide foot was a snowboarding boot half a size bigger, I have already gotten some Surefeet insoles. So, after two days riding in my boots I'm experiencing heel lift, I'll definitely get started in that. Should I start now before my boot actually packs out or start with the butterfly adjustments then c and j bars?

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10-24-2016 10:44 AM
basser
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He was just getting the minimum 10 characters to post.


Yes.
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Footbeds/tongue shims generally inside the liner.
Almost everything else (J bars/c bars/butterflies/other heel hold aides, foam padding, etc) generally outside the liner.
Heel wedges/cups are case-by-case ( often inside the liner but it depends - eg wedges/heel lifts generally go outside).
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Alright, I'll try what I have right now, and likely pick up something from Tognars.
10-23-2016 07:08 AM
chomps1211
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5678910???
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10-23-2016 03:01 AM
SGboarder
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Cool, I will take a look. In general though, you put it outside of the liner right?
Footbeds/tongue shims generally inside the liner.
Almost everything else (J bars/c bars/butterflies/other heel hold aides, foam padding, etc) generally outside the liner.
Heel wedges/cups are case-by-case ( often inside the liner but it depends - eg wedges/heel lifts generally go outside).
10-23-2016 12:54 AM
Deacon
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5678910???
He was just getting the minimum 10 characters to post.

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Cool, I will take a look. In general though, you put it outside of the liner right?
Yes.
10-23-2016 12:18 AM
basser
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I believe so., but I make my own, wrath has a thread on boot hacks.
Cool, I will take a look. In general though, you put it outside of the liner right?
10-23-2016 12:17 AM
basser
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yes!
5678910
5678910???
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