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01-11-2014 02:01 PM
double
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Originally Posted by tdn View Post
Congratulations! Of course, I am not surprised we didn't hear from you after the first time you posted it and it did not sell at $359 (discussed below).

Just to be clear, I have no problem with you (or your "friend") selling the board for whatever the market clearing price may be. Actually, I don't even care that much about what price you decided to originally list the board at. I only wrote a response to the thread because you asked the question why someone would disagree with your original asking price. The issue raised was only about starting the bidding above the purchase price for a used board that NS only sold at a discount bc it was for members of the military. Perhaps others, feeling similarly, did not bid on the board when they could have bought it for $359 less than a week ago.

By starting at lower price you attracted a lot of bids that did not participate in your first attempt to sell it. While we can't prove direct causation to the starting bid price it is interesting nonetheless.

I did not reply earlier to your or other member replies because the tone became more of personal issue and I was just trying to provide an explanation and not looking to start a fight.

Congratulations, I am glad both buyer and seller got what they wanted, after all, that is the way it is supposed to work!
01-11-2014 01:37 PM
linvillegorge
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Originally Posted by tdn View Post
Fitting show of classy chest thumping to cap off this thread.
01-11-2014 01:15 PM
tdn Never Summer Cobra Limited Edition | eBay

Sold for $450 shipped.
01-02-2014 01:36 PM
tdn
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Originally Posted by bseracka View Post
The big difference is that one is given away for free and the other had a msrp of 350.


This isn't an equal comparison, in one example you have a used year old board being offered for sale at more than msrp (350) and in the other example you have a new, current model year board being sold for less than msrp (550).
Slightly off topic. Where are you getting your MSRP from? You may have to look up the definition of MSRP. This board wasn't sold through retailers, there for there is no MSRP, and if you want to apply one the closest would be $550. Selling price, discounts, promotions etc.. do not equal MSRP.

The sale of this board does not take money from Veterans or Never Summer. In fact, for anyone who wants a Cobra for the nice board that it is, is getting it at a great price AND the bonus of having a very rare top sheet. You can try to play the moral high road, and I acknowledge you guys have good intentions but revisit your logic. It doesn't add up.

Everyone wins. Veterans got a donation. NS broke even like they intended while helping Vets and publicity. The seller breaks even. The buyer gets a board at a good price. What's the issue?
01-02-2014 02:36 AM
Triple8Sol
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Originally Posted by bseracka View Post
I would put the brothers in arms at close to the same level as a promo deck like breck brewing, or monster. The big difference is that one is given away for free and the other had a msrp of 350.
That's a very misleading "analogy." The majority of promo decks are super low end boards with a branded topsheet. The BIA is one of NS' top-of-the-line boards with a custom graphic that happens to look arguably way better than the standard board.

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Originally Posted by double View Post
If these boards, which were sold at a discount, are later marked up by the original purchasers then Never Summer may decide to discontinue this program. It is the other soldiers that might benefit from NS's program in the future that I am concerned about, not the buyer of the marked up board.
NS was fully aware that the servicemen/women that bought these boards could sell them for more than they paid, and I think they would encourage it if anything. NS offered the boards at a discount to honor current/former members of the military, not to impose restrictions on what they can/can't do afterwards...after all this is Never Summer we're talking about, not Nazi Burton.

The BIA is worth at least as much as a standard topsheet Cobra in similar condition. In reality it's actually worth more to the right buyers because of the limited run and arguably much better looking graphic. Just because someone got a product at some kind of discounted price doesn't mean there's a damn thing wrong with them selling it for market value. There are 0 moral or ethical problems here other than emotional extremist arguments. On the contrary, it is 100% logical without any business acumen.
01-01-2014 04:35 PM
tdn If people are willing to pay more, as they have recently for this same board, you think sellers are should say no? That's ridiculous. Even more ridiculous if you don't think NS knows people could and will profit.

I would also like to mention again, the seller isn't profiting At the price on eBay, just breaking even, if it even sells. Regardless of some of you being up in arms, its a good deal at the current price.

Lastly, NS goal was to make money for donating. Regardless of what the buyer does with the product, NS still sold x amount. What anyone does after with the product makes no difference on the donations, why would NS stop?
01-01-2014 11:54 AM
hardasacatshead Fuck there are some whinging sooky cunts on this forum. Let the bloke sell the fucking thing for whatever he wants and be done with it. As if it makes a difference to you up there in your ivory fucking towers anyway. You should be concerned about soldiers getting a bullet to the head or the useless wars they're fighting in running your country into inconceivable debt, not their ability to get a cheap board.

01-01-2014 11:30 AM
linvillegorge
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Originally Posted by double View Post
Never Summer is doing the right thing by creating LTD Edition boards and selling them below the standard MSRP exclusively for US military. If these boards, which were sold at a discount, are later marked up by the original purchasers then Never Summer may decide to discontinue this program.

It is the other soldiers that might benefit from NS's program in the future that I am concerned about, not the buyer of the marked up board. Just one man's opinion, others may disagree (but they would be wrong...j/k).
Bingo.
01-01-2014 11:22 AM
double
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Originally Posted by tdn View Post
Exactly. If he bought the standard Cobra at a discounted price and put it on eBay for $359 barely used, would anyone think twice about it?

Bseracka, people got brand new Protos for $250 off of buy snow, then sell it for $400-450, is that "whack" too?
Never Summer is doing the right thing by creating LTD Edition boards and selling them below the standard MSRP exclusively for US military. If these boards, which were sold at a discount, are later marked up by the original purchasers then Never Summer may decide to discontinue this program.

It is the other soldiers that might benefit from NS's program in the future that I am concerned about, not the buyer of the marked up board. Just one man's opinion, others may disagree (but they would be wrong...j/k).
12-31-2013 09:11 PM
bseracka
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Originally Posted by tdn View Post
Exactly. If he bought the standard Cobra at a discounted price and put it on eBay for $359 barely used, would anyone think twice about it?

Bseracka, people got brand new Protos for $250 off of buy snow, then sell it for $400-450, is that "whack" too?
At the end of the day it doesn't matter and we'll find out what people are willing to pay for a $350 board thanks to ebay.

My thoughts for what they're worth. There isn't really anything limited or special about the standard brothers in arms boards. Don't fool yourself into thinking that these decks were hard to get a hold of. There was a run of 4 or 5 spec ops boards that were give to wounded warriors for auction that could be sought after as that was a very limited run. I would put the brothers in arms at close to the same level as a promo deck like breck brewing, or monster. The big difference is that one is given away for free and the other had a msrp of 350.

In your second example you're talking about people taking advantage of a retailers mistake and their decision to honor the sale price, even though the proto should have been excluded. If the retailer decided to honor the sale that's on them and if someone wants to resale one for a discount on msrp that's on them.

This isn't an equal comparison, in one example you have a used year old board being offered for sale at more than msrp (350) and in the other example you have a new, current model year board being sold for less than msrp (550).
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