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01-24-2014 05:27 PM
ALshooter
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Originally Posted by by1113 View Post
Thanks! I'm glad it works for you. I haven't been in any private lesson but I guess that'll work much faster. haha. 14" fresh powder sounds amazing. CO is way better than what I could have near Kentucky. man.. Is you setup including knee pads, butt pads, and a helmet? It helps quite a lot for me especially for psychological barriers (lean forward, linking turns, speed, or jumps)... Just checked the mountain info (Largest Ski Resort Vertical Drop, Highest Mountains - Ski Stats) and Telluride seems to be the 2nd largest in Colorado Rockies. It'll be a good time! Have fun
I've got knee pads from shooting 3-gun and did get a helmet. Probably will not use the pads though. I would like to have some tailbone padding though.
01-24-2014 04:33 PM
by1113
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Originally Posted by ALshooter View Post
Thanks by1113. I've got a trip to Telluride scheduled for Feb 27-28th. This will be my second time snowboarding @ the age of 35. First time was 3 days @ Loveland on rental gear last March. Apparently it was the best weekend of that season. 14" of fresh the night before our second day. Took a couple private lessons and I loved it, my feet and butt didn't. Now I've got my own setup that actually fits. Watching these videos is just getting me more stoked. Hopefully I'll have good conditions this year too!
Thanks! I'm glad it works for you. I haven't been in any private lesson but I guess that'll work much faster. haha. 14" fresh powder sounds amazing. CO is way better than what I could have near Kentucky. man.. Is you setup including knee pads, butt pads, and a helmet? It helps quite a lot for me especially for psychological barriers (lean forward, linking turns, speed, or jumps)... Just checked the mountain info (Largest Ski Resort Vertical Drop, Highest Mountains - Ski Stats) and Telluride seems to be the 2nd largest in Colorado Rockies. It'll be a good time! Have fun
01-24-2014 11:29 AM
aiidoneus
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Originally Posted by ALshooter View Post
I think that there are exceptions to this statement, as you've pointed out. I can't really say since I'm still new to boarding. I do understand the reason behind this advise though. I'm a certified pistol instructor and I refuse to train my daughter or significant other based on the same idea. I let them get the basics and general safety from another instructor then casually work on other things during informal plinking sessions.
There is certainly a difference. You can't approach most friends/family with the same technique as teaching someone else. In the case of a stranger they tend to see you as an authority/expert figure. They take your advice as exactly that, advice.

Family I find see themselves as equals to you regardless of their skill on the snow. How you provide feedback and advice has to be done differently. I absolutely love how my girlfriend and I now can work on stuff together and help each other progress. Over the last 2 and half years we have both got much better at helping each other. This has helped me when teaching other friends who wanted to try it out.

But you are right, generally people are not great teachers to begin with (Despite their actual skill level). Then you add an extra layer of complexity and it is hard not to fail.
01-24-2014 11:24 AM
DiggerXJ My girlfriend actually taught me how to snowboard. Looking back now she did a pretty decent job, although she dragged me to a full run way too early and I was dead after that first day. She also didn't really instill the importance of edge control. Other than that I thought it was a good lesson, and was riding blacks after day 3 for 20+ days on the mountains. I love her for helping and it's definitely possible to teach someone as long as they're committed to learning
01-24-2014 11:23 AM
aiidoneus I don't know much about your friend. So I'll assume she is a beginner.

First thing, if they have never seen a snowboard. Explain where things are on the board so when you tell them things they understand (Tip, Tail, Heel, Toe Edge, binding parts, strap, buckle, high back).

Ok, so now they know what a snowboard is. Strap a foot in (whatever they are goofy/regular) What next? They are going to need to know how to get around the hill. Show them how to skate with both options. Heel side or Toe side, some people find one or the other easier. Once you have skated a few board lengths in one direction. Show them how to turn around and skate back to your original spot.

Before you head up the bunnies. Find a very gentle slope where they will come to a stop without needing to know how. You want them to travel 3 board lengths and come to a stop. With one foot still unstrapped get them to do one lap of each:

* Up and down motion. Ask them what is more comfortable, super tall, super compressed or somewhere in the middle
* Lean toeside/lean heelside/middle. Repeat the above question except for these range of motions
* Lean back/lean forward/middle

You are trying to let them discover that they want to be in a balanced stance in the middle of the board.

So they are feeling more comfortable on the board. Time to turn. There are a few basic turns by dragging the heel or toe. But lets dive into Hip-Nose turns. Making sure that you slight incline area is wide enough for a 1-2 board length turn in both directions.

A Hip-Nose turn is trying to help them discover that they want to look where they are going and that by moving their weight they can control the board. Still with one foot unstrapped. Demonstrate how to do a Hip-Nose turn

* Point down the hill
* Turning your hips in the direction you want to go
* and pointing your nose in the direction you want to go
* You will start to turn slightly and should come to an easy stop

For some people it helps to drag their back toe for a toeside turn and heelside for a heel turn. You can do turns just using this technique if they struggle with Hip-Nose.

Ok. It has been about 20 minutes since we started. Might be longer if they really struggle with skating or turning. Don't spend forever on Turning. You really are just giving them 'Time on the board'. But sliding around might not be super fun and they are eager to move on.

Gas Pedal Time.

Head up the magic carpet/bunny hill. Show them how the gas pedal works with one foot unstrapped. Press on the gas makes the board go faster. Letting off the gas slows it down. For some people it is best to try this with one foot unstrapped so they can use their one foot as balance or to catch themselves if they fall. Let them practice this on both edges and strap in as soon as they feel comfortable.

This is roughly a beginner lesson give or take depending on how skilled they are. Sometimes you are doing turns in the first hour. Sometimes they can't even stand up and you work on giving them the confidence to just stand while strapped in. Be patient. Give positive feedback first and if they are doing something wrong. Give them feedback like 'something to work on is X'. Don't tell them they suck at it. Also try to work on one issue at a time, don't overwhelm them with feedback.

Ramble over.
01-24-2014 11:17 AM
ALshooter
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Originally Posted by aiidoneus View Post
This is a terribly general statement. Teaching some of my friends and girlfriend has been one of the best experiences in my life. It has made my relationship with my girlfriend much stronger. It has made me a better instructor in a lot of ways.
I think that there are exceptions to this statement, as you've pointed out. I can't really say since I'm still new to boarding. I do understand the reason behind this advise though. I'm a certified pistol instructor and I refuse to train my daughter or significant other based on the same idea. I let them get the basics and general safety from another instructor then casually work on other things during informal plinking sessions.
01-24-2014 10:59 AM
aiidoneus
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Originally Posted by lab49232 View Post
Friends and boyfriends/girlfriends are the worst people to learn from.
This is a terribly general statement. Teaching some of my friends and girlfriend has been one of the best experiences in my life. It has made my relationship with my girlfriend much stronger. It has made me a better instructor in a lot of ways.
01-24-2014 10:32 AM
ALshooter
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Originally Posted by by1113 View Post
Hi guys,

Since I was a newbie of riding a snowboard, like 4 yrs ago, I didn't know where to go, so instead I went through Youtube searching for self-learning materials and got a set of teaching videos made by experts. Since then, I made a list of what should I learn and have been organizing/updating the it. I used this list to teach my girlfriend and several friends of mine over the past few seasons and it seems to work out for them.

I'd like to share it and hopefully it'll be helpful for those who would like to learn by themselves and those who need a checklist for teaching... - by a snowboarding lover

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brian...s/317332814874
Thanks by1113. I've got a trip to Telluride scheduled for Feb 27-28th. This will be my second time snowboarding @ the age of 35. First time was 3 days @ Loveland on rental gear last March. Apparently it was the best weekend of that season. 14" of fresh the night before our second day. Took a couple private lessons and I loved it, my feet and butt didn't. Now I've got my own setup that actually fits. Watching these videos is just getting me more stoked. Hopefully I'll have good conditions this year too!
01-22-2014 03:30 PM
by1113 Hi guys,

Since I was a newbie of riding a snowboard, like 4 yrs ago, I didn't know where to go, so instead I went through Youtube searching for self-learning materials and got a set of teaching videos made by experts. Since then, I made a list of what should I learn and have been organizing/updating the it. I used this list to teach my girlfriend and several friends of mine over the past few seasons and it seems to work out for them.

I'd like to share it and hopefully it'll be helpful for those who would like to learn by themselves and those who need a checklist for teaching... - by a snowboarding lover

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brian...s/317332814874
01-19-2014 10:52 PM
speedjason so how did your friend do? was she like a pro or just quit after an hour?
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