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02-02-2014 05:19 PM
Kevin137 I use CH4 as my base wax on any new board i get...!!!

Apply and let dry, and reheat with the wax to get good absorption into the base, and then wax to the weather over the top...

It is something that was advised to me by a pro over here to A, stop a board getting dry from having no wax, and B, harder wax lasts longer in warmer conditions, so if you get lazy, you will still have wax on your board...

I have no idea if it works, and CH4 is extremely hard to apply and scrape properly, so be sure you scrape it all, as this is where you must get it right, as for applying over the top, well same again, or heat and wipe instead of dripping with the wax, if that makes sense...

I really do hate CH4 because of the work, but i find it makes a huge difference through the winter, for me anyway...!!!

Now the only thing i need to find is decent rotary brushes for snowboards, as that will be awesome... Haha
02-02-2014 04:13 PM
Zolemite I used the One Ball Jay Cold wax and it works better than not having it haha
01-31-2014 03:11 AM
hpin I use the Maplus Green wax during typical Jan-Feb Alberta weather.
https://tools4boards.com/store/produ...tegory_id-null

I got them from the shop in Calgary.
01-30-2014 10:21 PM
tanscrazydaisy
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Originally Posted by Caffeine View Post
Hey guys


I am curious to know what you guys use for really cold temperatures like -30 degrees Celsius. I have used Dakine cold wax but my board is still real slow in minus 25 and under. Is there a wax that will give me some decent glide in cold weather like this (I was thinking Swix LH4 rated down to minus -32 or Beaver cold wax) or will a board be slow no matter what in conditions like these?

Cheers.
You mean CH4? or LF4 (low fluoro).... they will be good to about -32C

if that's what is available locally and/or what you have on hand... then use it.
01-30-2014 08:46 PM
24WERD I usually just use hertel FC739 and buy the cold snap mix 50/50 wax and go.

Of course I have not been in under 10f yet and I would be glad to see actual powder this year.
01-30-2014 06:06 PM
Bones The following is from tognar

Waxing tips for ski and snowboard


COLD SNOW = SLOWER GLIDE
Cold slow is usually dry snow...in fact, somewhere around -20*F (-30*C), snow feels more like beach sand and bases are really slow...whether correctly waxed or not. Warmer temperatures usually create more moisture in the snowpack, which provides greater lubricity and helps the base slide...up to a point, since too much water creates suction that again slows your glide. Ideal glide usually occurs at temperatures just below freezing (28 to 30*F, or -2 to -1*C...depending on the moisture content). Tests conducted by the Ski Research Group at Eagle River Nordic in Wisconsin (using nordic skis gliding downhill through a speed trap on a 12* slope) produced the following results:
Snow Temp Glide Speed % Difference
28*F 18mph --
20*F 17mph 5% slower
10*F 15mph 11% slower
-4*F 12mph 33% slower
-10*F 8mph 56% slower

There is also a chart listing temperature ranges by some of the major wax companies. Obviously, not all wax companies and the info is a bit dated, but there are very few waxes that go below -30F
01-30-2014 05:35 PM
KIRKRIDER
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Originally Posted by Bones View Post
A base grind and structure is really going to help break the suction effect in spring conditions. There may well be some advantage in very cold conditions, but my understanding is that there isn't or that the advantage wouldn't be noticeable.

Your best bet is cold temperature wax, but there is a temperature point where the advantages should be described as "beats doing nothing"
same thing happened to me. was like riding velcro. Try Zardoz not wax?
01-30-2014 05:05 PM
Bones
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Yes and no, if the structure is gone, or there wasn't a good structure to begin with, a base grind can really help with glide in spring slush. Not sure if it has any effect on really cold snow.
A base grind and structure is really going to help break the suction effect in spring conditions. There may well be some advantage in very cold conditions, but my understanding is that there isn't or that the advantage wouldn't be noticeable.

Your best bet is cold temperature wax, but there is a temperature point where the advantages should be described as "beats doing nothing"
01-30-2014 04:47 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by Caffeine View Post
No I have never had a base grind.....isn't that something you get when your base is really dinged up?
Yes and no, if the structure is gone, or there wasn't a good structure to begin with, a base grind can really help with glide in spring slush. Not sure if it has any effect on really cold snow.

Here's a site with some comments about it. Not sure how accurate they are.

Ski Base Structure Theory
01-30-2014 04:45 PM
Caffeine
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
There are a few days a year where it's pretty much impossible to glide across the top because it's so cold. Any good cold temp wax can help, but nothing can help the fact that the snow is bloody cold! Just like nothing can overcome the bad suction you get with spring boarding.

One thing that might help is a good base structure. Have you had a base grind lately?
No I have never had a base grind.....isn't that something you get when your base is really dinged up?
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