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02-05-2014 02:02 AM
P@ve1
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Originally Posted by Redline View Post
You can't necessarily make a 9m radius turn at those speeds but you sure as shit can still rail some pretty tight turns without skidding the ass end of the board all around. AKA carving.
Sorry man, but making a 9m radius turn on board with sidecut radius of 7m - is definetly NOT carving!

Carving - is when you making turn with radius less then one of board sidecut.
02-04-2014 03:33 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
Ok, I'm not carving like that...would love to have that wide open soft pack....lovely stuff....I'm stuck with groomed ice and I guess bombing, praying that I 'm stacked enough over my edge and that holds....and that there are no gapers sitting over the blind rollers. Really we pop over rollers and pray that there is no one there....and that is why I let the skiers buds go first so that they can clear out the debris.
Yeah I ride like that most of the time too... To really carve you need a nice wide open groomer, not too many people around, and ideally some semi-hardpack (although not TOO hard).
02-04-2014 03:21 PM
Redline
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Originally Posted by P@ve1 View Post
So you assert that on soft twin you you can carve faster than skiers on GS competitions?
Too unreal man.

What method had you used for measuring speed? And on what angle did you lean your board in such carves?
Is that what I said? No. I'm saying at 50+ MPH you can do more than just bomb down the hill flat-based. On any board, while engaging the edge even. Carving ability and speeds ridden while carving is entirely up to the person doing the carving. You can't necessarily make a 9m radius turn at those speeds but you sure as shit can still rail some pretty tight turns without skidding the ass end of the board all around. AKA carving.
02-04-2014 03:15 PM
neni
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Originally Posted by poutanen View Post
Yeah maybe we need to define "carving" here.
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Carving is all about getting excellent form and getting the tightest arc, the deepest trench, and getting your body as close to the snow as possible.
+1
So many discussions about this term... Actually it's very easy to define... does the snow it look like this, you're carving. If not, you're trying.



I'm frequently trying
02-04-2014 03:11 PM
wrathfuldeity Ok, I'm not carving like that...would love to have that wide open soft pack....lovely stuff....I'm stuck with groomed ice and I guess bombing, praying that I 'm stacked enough over my edge and that holds....and that there are no gapers sitting over the blind rollers. Really we pop over rollers and pray that there is no one there....and that is why I let the skiers buds go first so that they can clear out the debris.
02-04-2014 03:07 PM
nillo That's the stuff right there Poutanen.

pavel, the OP wants to carve West Virginia and Pennsylvania. He doesn't need an RCR board because he'll only see powder in his dreams.
02-04-2014 03:02 PM
nillo
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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
Granted the board is not high on edge, nor are the carves tight...holding on to my ass getting fairly low just to hold the turns to stay on the groomed without flying off into the trees, but known distance and time...which the fastest skier in the group was 90 secs for 1.5 miles = 60 mph and the slowest skier in the group with ski tracks app was topping out at 47 mph for the run and I was in the middle of the pack....btw not a soft twin...stiff cambered twin. And I'm not running 25-30 gates...maybe 12 large arching turns.
well sure, if you don't come anywhere close to fully engaging your tiny sidecut and just bomb down the hill.
02-04-2014 02:45 PM
poutanen
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Originally Posted by Redline View Post
That is false. I have taken a mid flexing twin into the upper 60 mph range while carving without it becoming a ring and bucking me due to g-force. I'm pretty sure that the speed to board ability level is all based on the person riding the board.
Yeah maybe we need to define "carving" here. I've ridden with hardbooters, and carving is NOT something that happens at high speeds. The best riders of the bunch were likely moving at 45-50 km/h (28-31 mph), the average probably carve at a much lower speed than that.

Carving is all about getting excellent form and getting the tightest arc, the deepest trench, and getting your body as close to the snow as possible.

I have a GPS watch and have found it to be much more accurate than GPS phone apps, and my highest speeds are typically in the high 70 km/h low 80 km/h range. I can turn at these speeds, but not "CARVE".

THIS: is softboot carving...



I ride a BX style board (albeit softer than a Kessler/Oxess and with an upturned nose), and I can carve well for softboots, but NOTHING compared to the hardboot guys. There's a limit to what you can do with softboots.

That said, I have fun with my board carving and freeriding (and the occasional kicker), so you can get a board that will do all fairly well.
02-04-2014 02:34 PM
wrathfuldeity Granted the board is not high on edge, nor are the carves tight...holding on to my ass getting fairly low just to hold the turns to stay on the groomed without flying off into the trees, but known distance and time...which the fastest skier in the group was 90 secs for 1.5 miles = 60 mph and the slowest skier in the group with ski tracks app was topping out at 47 mph for the run and I was in the middle of the pack....btw not a soft twin...stiff cambered twin. And I'm not running 25-30 gates...maybe 12 large arching turns.
02-04-2014 01:46 PM
baldylox
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That is false. I have taken a mid flexing twin into the upper 60 mph range while carving without it becoming a ring and bucking me due to g-force. I'm pretty sure that the speed to board ability level is all based on the person riding the board.
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