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01-04-2015 05:22 PM
buggravy
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Originally Posted by trpa_ec View Post
I am right about 170 so we are not too far off in weight. I only got serious about riding 4 seasons ago and ride a little over 30 days a year.

I definitely agree with you about the turn initiation. The Chairman hooks into a carve really easily but for me it is the finish that differs. The Chairman feels harder to tighten up the radius on the exit. I suspect that my opinion will change as I get used to the board and put in more time. One other difference is that my Raptor is 3 seasons old and has 75+ days on it so the board will be different than a brand new Raptor.

I think we would both agree that the Chairman feels different than the Raptor and that difference is very noticeable.
Oddly, it's the Raptor that I feel doesn't want to come around at the end of a turn, and the Chairman that corrected that issue. I haven't found a lot of people to agree with me re: the Raptor on that, but that's how it felt to me. Regardless, you're correct, definitely a different feeling board.
01-04-2015 03:32 PM
trpa_ec I am right about 170 so we are not too far off in weight. I only got serious about riding 4 seasons ago and ride a little over 30 days a year.

I definitely agree with you about the turn initiation. The Chairman hooks into a carve really easily but for me it is the finish that differs. The Chairman feels harder to tighten up the radius on the exit. I suspect that my opinion will change as I get used to the board and put in more time. One other difference is that my Raptor is 3 seasons old and has 75+ days on it so the board will be different than a brand new Raptor.

I think we would both agree that the Chairman feels different than the Raptor and that difference is very noticeable.
01-04-2015 10:25 AM
buggravy
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I'm finally out on the slopes after a largely dismal December. I got a chance to finally take out that Never Summer Chairman 160 with Union Chargers. I've been riding a Never Summer Raptor 159 on Salomon Calibers for the last 3 seasons and love it so I was eager to try out its successor The Chairman. After a day of riding, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. Please take my opinion with a grain of salt as I am less experienced. Bart and buggravy probably ride more in one season than I do in 5.

I was surprised when I first strapped in. On the carpet the Chairman didn't really feel much stiffer than the Raptor but on the snow the Chairman felt way stiffer and, with the Union Chargers, the combination felt like it was machined from a solid block. For me, I believe the mellower sidecut meant a longer turn radius and less ability to drive the turn tighter. The board felt happier down the fall line. Also the flex profile of the Raptor combined with its stiffness made it easier to load up, the added stiffness of the Chairman made it feel like I had to really work hard to load up the board and to torsionally flex the board. On the plus side the board absolutely loves to get on edge and it feels like riding a scalpel. It was composed in everything and absolutely blasted through stuff.

The Chairman is more aggressive and less forgiving and harder to ride as it requires more commitment but the end result feels fast though I have no objective evidence of that. I'm still not sure if I prefer it to my Raptor. The Raptor feels more fun and versatile and the Chairman faster and more composed. I think I'll have to grow into the Chairman.
Interesting take. You and I had pretty much opposite experiences with both the Raptor and the Chairman. Just goes to show there's no right or wrong. We just all experience boards differently. I'm right at 160 lbs, and I ended up picking up a 160 in addition to the 157. On this board I really only notice the stiffness in a good way. With the RC profile, and the tight radius at the ends of the sidecut I feel like it initiates really easily, and kind of masks the stiffness. Even the 160 feels like a pretty versatile board for me, where as I only liked the Raptor when it was really opened up, and even then I just didn't feel as natural on it. And FWIW, I ride 25 - 30 days a year, and this is my 8th season, so I'm definitely no expert.
01-04-2015 09:24 AM
trpa_ec I'm finally out on the slopes after a largely dismal December. I got a chance to finally take out that Never Summer Chairman 160 with Union Chargers. I've been riding a Never Summer Raptor 159 on Salomon Calibers for the last 3 seasons and love it so I was eager to try out its successor The Chairman. After a day of riding, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. Please take my opinion with a grain of salt as I am less experienced. Bart and buggravy probably ride more in one season than I do in 5.

I was surprised when I first strapped in. On the carpet the Chairman didn't really feel much stiffer than the Raptor but on the snow the Chairman felt way stiffer and, with the Union Chargers, the combination felt like it was machined from a solid block. For me, I believe the mellower sidecut meant a longer turn radius and less ability to drive the turn tighter. The board felt happier down the fall line. Also the flex profile of the Raptor combined with its stiffness made it easier to load up, the added stiffness of the Chairman made it feel like I had to really work hard to load up the board and to torsionally flex the board. On the plus side the board absolutely loves to get on edge and it feels like riding a scalpel. It was composed in everything and absolutely blasted through stuff.

The Chairman is more aggressive and less forgiving and harder to ride as it requires more commitment but the end result feels fast though I have no objective evidence of that. I'm still not sure if I prefer it to my Raptor. The Raptor feels more fun and versatile and the Chairman faster and more composed. I think I'll have to grow into the Chairman.
10-23-2014 04:05 PM
canmanski Thanks frankz.

That board is pretty awesome and that helps a lot...
10-23-2014 03:58 PM
frankz Holy Crap Bart! Thats the lowest I've seen someone carve!


Bravo buddy.
10-17-2014 05:41 AM
canmanski
Back up

Hey there,

After a while I managed to migrate my site to WordPress - it took much longer than I thought. There are still some broken links and I will fix that soon.

In the meantime - here's a gallery of carving on NS The Chairman:

Kasprowy Photo Shoot - megustasport.com

Enjoy.

Best Regards
Bart
09-03-2014 09:48 PM
Edvard_Grieg Still have my Titan TX 169...might be a bit much
09-03-2014 09:37 PM
tonicusa I always wanted to grab a cambered Titan 160. Guess I waited too long. Lol
09-03-2014 09:25 PM
JVee Hi Edvard, check the 2015 Dominions. Pete has changed the profile on them with increased nose rocker. May be what you are looking for
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