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|01-15-2016 12:24 PM|
|Clayton Bigsby||have to agree with rambob, I own the AK pants and my buddy has the jacket, great stuff spendy but if you want good stuff (ArcTeryx, Marmot, Northface, Mammut, AK etc) you gotta pay|
|01-15-2016 09:09 AM|
Originally Posted by Lamps View Post
The Burton zip interface between jackets and pants was great. The powder protection of a one piece with the style options of a two piece. Was sad to see this go. The little snaps and such they have now don't work for sh*t...
Came across this while researching the 3L bib pants, which I am only considering to keep snow out of my ass. And annoyed that they are hard to find, very expensive, and don't have a mesh lining on the vents. Why the hell wouldn't they put mesh on leg vents? How can you ride in powder without mesh?!?
|02-24-2014 04:12 PM|
|ETM||My oakley kit zips together and the bib can also zip off the pants.|
|02-24-2014 10:09 AM|
Originally Posted by dreampow View Post
|02-23-2014 10:00 PM|
Originally Posted by ETM View Post
The negatives to bibs are:
-it's almost like you have an extra layer on your torso, so it will factor into your layering strategies.
-not really useful for spring hiking
I just use older Burton AK 3l, hovers or 2L stagger pants, and they all work as resort pants too. Especially good if you start the day in resort and then meet friends who are heading out. It's easy to grab your gear backpack, but not reasonable to change pants.
If you have a burton jacket, the pow skirt interface doesn't let any snow in. If the pow skirt doesn't let any snow in, what's the advantage of bibs?
|02-23-2014 07:45 PM|
Yeah 3L can get kind of restricted and hot if you don’t vent right I also have these bibs by MHW. I also have some Arcteryx sabre bibs that I use from time to time as they are a looser fit then normal arcteryx pants.
|02-23-2014 07:02 PM|
|ETM||My oakley stuff is 2 layer and is more than warm enough for nagano. I would say stay away from 3 layer due to lack of mobility and it will get too hot.|
|02-23-2014 10:17 AM|
|double||I have tried a lot of different pants/bibs and found the AK 3L's to be high quality but as mentioned, a little stiff (at first) for a pure shell. I prefer my Arcteryx bibs which are very thin but virtually indestructible. I will say that fit is really the most important criteria because you want to be comfortable riding or hiking out in them. At the higher AK and Arcteryx product levels the quality is reasonable close but having pants that don't fit well or have different insulation then what you want is awful.|
|02-23-2014 08:34 AM|
|readimag||Only problem I have with the pants is no mesh in the vents, but my arcteryx is the same way. I still open them about an inch and don’t really get much if any snow in when riding. Also I don’t know how tall you are but for some reason they run kind of short, and I am 6 foot and a XL has a 33 inseam just big enough for me.|
|02-23-2014 06:14 AM|
AK 3L rocks, the material is bombproof. I also like the cut on the non bib pants, they're cut a bit more like jeans than baggy pants.
Had some threads fray on a 2 year old pair after about a 100 days of use, sent them to burton, new pants arrived 2 days later, burton warranty service rocks.
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