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02-26-2014 08:12 PM
Sublimaze Check out this thread:


http://www.snowboardingforum.com/nev...edge-hold.html
02-26-2014 07:29 PM
wrathfuldeity Gnu has full mag and mellow mag/0.5 mag. The full mag you can feel and is the real deal...the mellow mag is not very noticeable but is there when you need it...imho mellow mag for more advanced riding.
02-26-2014 07:22 PM
Sublimaze This is NS's version. It's not as aggressive as magnetraction. I've never ridden a GNU, but I can say that the vario power grip sidecut on my Proto HD holds well. You won't go wrong with either GNU or NS. Ultimately, it will be your technique that makes the difference.
02-26-2014 06:11 PM
shreddog
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I own the Never Summer RipSaw 159 IMO best board ever. Great edge hold & fast, but when there is lots of ice I ride one of my boards with mange-traction.
If I where an expert boarder that RipSaw could be my only board.
Magne-Traction IMO helps with sloppy and/or poor technique. As my skills progress as a snowboarder the need for mange-traction as a safety crutch will becoming less.

So if your on Ice a lot go with anything mange-traction. If not Never Summer all the way.

Got the $$$ get one of each. I own and ride 5 boards with mange-traction & 5 boards without mange-traction.

Was on slopes 100+ days last year and #62 today.
Wow, that's a lot of boards!

I thought NS had their own version of Magnetraction. None of your NS boards have that? I hear Magnetraction can be a bit of overkill, was hoping the NS technology was somewhere between the standard straight edge and the Magnetraction.
02-26-2014 05:47 PM
SnowDogWax
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I'm now considering going 1 of 2 ways:

1) Go with a Burton Antler for completely different ride characteristics

or

2) Replace my current board with a new/better handling board for the difficult north east terrain

While I like the idea of #1, having 2 boards for 2 different purposes is probably not practical since I don't go out that often.

If I go option 2, I have been trying to determine which board (not limiting myself to Burton) is a good combination of handling on ice while also being able to be used on powder (for my 1 trip a year our west - doesn't have to be great but usable)...Looked at the Gnu Rider's choice and the magne-traction. This new technology is awesome! How does it compare the Never Summer's answer to ice? I think it's called the SINTERED P-TEX SIDEWALL.

Thanks for opening my eye to the world outside of Burton. I'm just so used to my 2 previous boards that I automatically think...I'll just get another one! Also, IMO, Burton makes some nice looking boards.


I own the Never Summer RipSaw 159 IMO best board ever. Great edge hold & fast, but when there is lots of ice I ride one of my boards with mange-traction.
If I where an expert boarder that RipSaw could be my only board.
Magne-Traction IMO helps with sloppy and/or poor technique. As my skills progress as a snowboarder the need for mange-traction as a safety crutch will becoming less.

So if your on Ice a lot go with anything mange-traction. If not Never Summer all the way.

Got the $$$ get one of each. I own and ride 5 boards with mange-traction & 5 boards without mange-traction.

Was on slopes 100+ days last year and #62 today.
02-26-2014 04:08 PM
wrathfuldeity Have not ridden a burton or NS...but all probably have in general a similar design and would just be a matter of personal preference and a day or two to get its idiosyncrasies sorted out. I tend to think that boards are tested and developed somewhat as result of their regional environments and riding styles....Mervin/Lib/Gnu for PNW, NS for Co and Burton for EC.

As far as riding camber vs hybrid...since you started on cambered...a hybrid will be easy to dial in, fun and more agile...but you will eventually miss the liveliness of camber...so keep your old cam board to ride. I will say that riding the hybrid did help me up my cam riding...it really forced me to getting very dynamic, riding from the nose and my fore/aft movements.
02-26-2014 01:57 PM
shreddog
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Originally Posted by SnowDogWax View Post
GNU Riders Choice is a good choice, also Rossi OneMag, LibTech TRS, each has Magne-Traction IMO a must on the Ice Coast.
I'm now considering going 1 of 2 ways:

1) Go with a Burton Antler for completely different ride characteristics

or

2) Replace my current board with a new/better handling board for the difficult north east terrain

While I like the idea of #1, having 2 boards for 2 different purposes is probably not practical since I don't go out that often.

If I go option 2, I have been trying to determine which board (not limiting myself to Burton) is a good combination of handling on ice while also being able to be used on powder (for my 1 trip a year our west - doesn't have to be great but usable)...Looked at the Gnu Rider's choice and the magne-traction. This new technology is awesome! How does it compare the Never Summer's answer to ice? I think it's called the SINTERED P-TEX SIDEWALL.

Thanks for opening my eye to the world outside of Burton. I'm just so used to my 2 previous boards that I automatically think...I'll just get another one! Also, IMO, Burton makes some nice looking boards.
02-24-2014 10:54 AM
Lamps
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LAMPS - when you say "but it's a stiff board for charging", does that mean it's harder to control at speed? I thought stiffer meant more responsive and would therefore be easier to control at speed. Should a be looking softer boards?

Thanks again, learning so much by reading through this forum!
A stiff cambered board is typically more controllable at speed and will hold well on ice, but it's not as easy to turn, and if you're lazy in the ankles your more likely to hook an edge. I have two flying V boards and a cambered board. My flying V Sherlock is in my opinion quite difficult to catch an edge with, even if you're careless. If I ride that board for a few days in a row and then switch back to the cambered board I have to pay attention as the cambered board isn't a forgiving and will make you pay if you're lazy.

Note that the sort of people who tend to ride the custom X know who they are, if you don't think if yourself as someone who likes to go very fast and carve hard you might find it too stiff and unforgiving.

Ideally you should demo a flying V board and a cambered board to feel the difference.
02-24-2014 10:29 AM
shreddog
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A stiff cambered board is great at blasting and feeling stable on ice...but blasting like 40-50+mph with less agility/turning...and will be playful while going fast .

A softer board with magnetraction (grips/edge in ice) and some rocker in the middle and camber in the nose and tail...will feel a bit squirrly when blasting/bombing ice...but will be able to be more agile, playful when not blasting.

But advanced skills will be able to handle either board.
Ahhh, so "blasting" sounds a little faster than I would like to go. Perhaps I don't need as stiff a board as I think.
02-24-2014 09:43 AM
wrathfuldeity A stiff cambered board is great at blasting and feeling stable on ice...but blasting like 40-50+mph with less agility/turning...and will be playful while going fast .

A softer board with magnetraction (grips/edge in ice) and some rocker in the middle and camber in the nose and tail...will feel a bit squirrly when blasting/bombing ice...but will be able to be more agile, playful when not blasting.

But advanced skills will be able to handle either board.
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